Soga 48l electric urn for BIAB

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I've been eyeing off this as a BIAB vessel. I know people use the Soga kettles on gas, but has anyone used this urn?

https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/heyhey...eel-urn-commercial-water-boiler-2200w-urn844/
Only asking as I noticed the disclaimer:
Please note: This appliance is designed for boiling of water only, we don’t recommend using this to heat or boil any other liquids or food as it might be misused

I guess they are just covering themselves. I was also looking at the Apuro / Buffalo 40l which is the same price but smaller.

https://www.nisbets.com.au/apuro-manual-fill-hot-water-urn-40ltr/gl349-a
Any thoughts?
 
As you are in Melbourne, try giving Crown Urns in Lilydale a call. Sometimes they have seconds (scratched, etc) for sale from the factory, around the same price

I found them to be nice people and it’s a quality Aussie made product.

Of course you would have to collect it in four weeks time given lockdown.
 
Looks like the Crown seconds are still around the $300 mark, so I'll be the Soga guinea pig I think.
 
Just posting this as it might be helpful to others. I've emailed Soga to ask about what looks like a 'false bottom' in their urn and whether it's removable for cleaning. Could work ok for BIAB if it is.
 

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Turns out that photo relates to a different product so no false bottom.

Anyway, I'll buy it and see how I go.
 
Well, it's ordered now so I'll see how I go. I plan on insulating it. The Crown is 2.4kw so not a huge difference.
 
2200w is going to take a long time to boil 40+ Ltrs
Quick calculation puts 20c water to 65c at 1 hour

65c to boil at 45 minutes

That's at 100% efficiency for 40L.

Doing a normal volume, BIAB with full volume let's call it 28L pre boil, 33L mash. Thats:
33L from 20c to 65c @ 46m
65c to boil @ 35

You might be better off buying a big pot and putting in your own heat stick with a controller. Something like:

https://www.ebay.com.au/i/174339637...5YY3VfAkyT2TxuFXfIJN1xE9F6kRGWgxoCWfIQAvD_BwE
That's a 50L stainless steel pot for $70

Plus a heat stick (Could even put two) call it $90 with wiring

https://cheekypeakbrewery.com.au/3200w-ss-element-2-tri-clover-mount-guard-set-not-wired
And you are pretty much there. A simple False Floor from a Brewzilla $30

And a control panel $45

https://www.kegland.com.au/4000w-power-station-240v-power-controller.html
So thats $235 for a 50L capacity, fully controlled pot. Then you can add in Ball Valves for transfer etc. and you have an extra 1000W
 
Well, it's ordered now so I'll see how I go. I plan on insulating it. The Crown is 2.4kw so not a huge difference.
I don't think it will be too bad, I have a 40L Guten with a 2500W and other than ramping to temp, I hold the boil at 2000W so I think you would be fine. It's a good size I thought it was only 40L that's why I suggested the pot. But at 48L It will easily allow you to do BIAB.
 
Thanks mate. Probably only going to be doing 23l batches (end volume) to start with, but thought the bigger pot might come in handy later if I decide to upsize.
 
I've got a 58L 2800W Urn I bought off EvilBay for BIAB.
My first foray into AG.

I'm only going to do 23L final volume batches though, I just wanted plenty of headspace. A couple of others on the Kegland community FB page use the same type so I'm hoping it will do the job for a while. (I'm not a big drinker, so brews will be every couple of months or so)
Throwing in a lauter helix and a ball valve to replace the tap this weekend, then I'll do a test boil. 🤞
 
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