Session IPA

[ajmuzza]

Hi guys,

I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me with a recipe for a sessionable ipa - something along the lines of brew cults hop zone (some may say its more an APA).

I've had a search of the interweb and the recipe db and can't seem to find anything that is low enough in abv (around 5%) but has the hops i want to include NS, simcoe, cascade. I was thinking about taking the grain bill from DSGA but am a bit lost on the hop bill. I Biab and no chill, but will use the argon method for the post 10minute hops.

Any recipe suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

 

[Lecterfan]

You can put those hops into any grist/grain bill that you like. You don't have to be hesitant when modifying recipes. So do the Golden Ale if that's what you like, or try Argons Little Fellas Pale Ale and reduce the base malt to get to your preferred OG/ABV. Pay attention with your hop selection to get the IBU level that you are after.

OR you can start taking note of how certain malts are used in what quantities etc etc and start to build your own recipe. If you are looking to create a beer style (not a clone of a particular beer) then recipe formation is pretty straightforward. Take it easy on the spec malts, limit the number of different malts you throw in until you know what each one contributes, early hops for bittering, middle/late boil hops for flavour, late boil/cube/flameout/whirlpool hops for aroma. Of course that is primitive and nebulous, but gives you the idea.

Those three sound like a great combo. I'm over NS but deeply in love with simcoe at the moment. Good luck. :icon_cheers:

 

[yum beer]

Replace Smurto's hop bill with a mix of your hops; using 1/3 of each for each addition.
Plug it into some software to get your IBU's correct and your grain amount to your ABV. IIRC Smurot's is around 5% anyway.
I do the golden ale with a mix of Amarillo, Cascade, Centenniel, Simcoe and Williamette...yummy.
The grain bill is a bolter and as stated in the recipe thread wil take on a wide variety of hops or combo's.

 

[slash22000]

Now when you say "session IPA", what exactly are you looking for insofar as IPA characteristics? Do you just want the massive hop aroma, or do you want the bitterness too?

 

[ajmuzza]

Bitterness around the 40-50 IBU mark (arguably in the APA class), but predominantly looking for the hop aroma (hence, going with the Argon method).

I agree with all the comments about keeping the grain bill simple. Was also looking to keep the hops to 2-3 varieities.

Cheers

 

[slash22000]

Well it's not really the IBU's so much as the balance that needs to be addressed. A good starting point for an IPA is 1:1 IBU:GU, so 1.050 OG should have around 50 IBU to give it that IPA kick.

IPA grain bills are typically very simple, some of the most famous IPA's in the world are just 95% base malt, 5% crystal malt (usually the lower end of caramel, C20 - C40, Caramalt is a good substitute for C20). However, with a lower OG, you might find it will end up too dry. Perhaps think about using some Carapils to add body without too much sweetness.

I don't know jack about no-chilling, so I can't help much there. I aim for at least 3g/L aroma hops (<10 minutes/flameout), and at least 3g/L hops dry hop for an IPA.

 

[kevo]

This might be of interest....

http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=15704&hilit=brewdog

Not really an IPA or a small IPA, but might do the trick or prompt some other ideas.

Kev

 

[PeteQ]

This might be of interest....

http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=15704&hilit=brewdog

Not really an IPA or a small IPA, but might do the trick or prompt some other ideas.

Kev

Can anyone comment on this recipe?

Roughly 40% crystal???

 

[slash22000]

Chop & Brew has a recipe for a session IPA:

http://chopandbrew.com/2013/03/07/311-day-homebrew-recipes/

Look for "The Nazz". Apparently it turned out awesome. Just have to convert from yank to sensible measurements.

 

[kevo]

Can anyone comment on this recipe?

Roughly 40% crystal???

There's plenty of discussion on it in the linked thread. There'd be some discussion on it here somewhere. IIRC Maple(?) made something similar fpor a casse swap in recent years.

Examples I've tried have been pretty cool, good chewy body and plenty of hop character.

Anyways, thought it ticked some low alcohol, high hoppiness boxes...

Kev

 

[PeteQ]

There's plenty of discussion on it in the linked thread. There'd be some discussion on it here somewhere. IIRC Maple(?) made something similar fpor a casse swap in recent years.

Examples I've tried have been pretty cool, good chewy body and plenty of hop character.

Anyways, thought it ticked some low alcohol, high hoppiness boxes...

Kev

Certainly looks interesting, thanks for putting this one up!

I'll definitely give it a crack in the coming months.

Cheers

 

[ajmuzza]

Given that this will be my first BIAB, I may be trying to be too smart by half, but what do you reckon of this (the crystal 90 is meant to sub for Carabohemian)? Basically, no idea what I'm doing (but gees brewmate is fun) so all comments welcome.

Original Gravity (OG): 1.056 (°P): 13.8
Final Gravity (FG): 1.014 (°P): 3.6
Alcohol (ABV): 5.50 %
Colour (SRM): 9.6 (EBC): 18.8
Bitterness (IBU): 56.1 (Average)

54.17% Golden Promise Malt
20.83% Rye Malt
20.83% Vienna
4.17% Crystal 90

1.3 g/L Simcoe (13.5% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil)
0.6 g/L Amarillo (8.4% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil)
0.6 g/L Cascade (8.7% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil)
1 g/L Amarillo (8.4% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil)
1 g/L Cascade (8.7% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil)
1 g/L Simcoe (13.5% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Boil)
1 g/L Amarillo (8.4% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop)
1 g/L Cascade (8.7% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop)
1 g/L Simcoe (13.5% Alpha) @ 0 Days (Dry Hop)


Single step Infusion at 67°C for 90 Minutes. Boil for 60 Minutes

Fermented at 18°C with Safale US-05



I'm looking at doing a small test batch first so may have difficulties holding the temp for 90mins. Is there any major downside in only mashing for 60mins?

 

[rehab]

I only mash for about 60 mins. Usually turns out sweet :beerbang:

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

Too much rye.

 

[ajmuzza]

Too much rye.

For the particular hop bill or generally? Smurto's current DSGA recipe specifies 20% rye?