Recipe Critique - Which Scottish Ale

[GrumpyPaul]

The first ever AG I did was a Scottish ale...I didn't have clue what I was doing but it still turned out OK.

Now that I have a better idea I am going to go back and re-do my earlier attempts and hopefully improve on them.

The first is re do of my original - the second is a recipe I found on the HBT recipe database that seems to be well received.

I am keen to get advice on which of two is better. In both recipes I plan to take 3 litre out boil it down to 1 litre to caramelise and then add back to the kettle.

Advice on mash temp/steps and fermentation would be great too.

RECIPE 1

scottish 80
Scottish Light 80/-

Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 23.0
Total Grain (kg): 4.508
Total Hops (g): 30.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.043 (°P): 10.7
Final Gravity (FG): 1.011 (°P): 2.8
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.22 %
Colour (SRM): 13.1 (EBC): 25.8
Bitterness (IBU): 18.0 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes): 60

Grain Bill
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3.730 kg Pale Ale Malt (82.74%)
0.280 kg Crystal 20 (6.21%)
0.280 kg Crystal 80 (6.21%)
0.218 kg Crystal 120 (4.84%)

Hop Bill
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30.0 g East Kent Golding Pellet (4.7% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.3 g/L)

Misc Bill
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40.0 g Oak Chips @ 0 Days (Secondary)

Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 18°C with Wyeast 1728 - Scottish Ale


RECIPE 2

Is that a Gunn
Scottish Light 80/-

Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 23.0
Total Grain (kg): 5.000
Total Hops (g): 41.40
Original Gravity (OG): 1.048 (°P): 11.9
Final Gravity (FG): 1.012 (°P): 3.1
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.72 %
Colour (SRM): 12.1 (EBC): 23.9
Bitterness (IBU): 24.3 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes): 59

Grain Bill
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4.500 kg Pale Ale Malt (90%)
0.400 kg Caramalt (8%)
0.100 kg Chocolate (2%)

Hop Bill
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41.4 g East Kent Golding Pellet (4.7% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.8 g/L)

Misc Bill
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56.7 g Oak Chips @ 0 Days (Secondary)

Single step Infusion at 67°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 20°C with Wyeast 1728 - Scottish Ale

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Search my Pillar of Red. Its in the datbase...

Its a cracking Scottish Ale

 

[GrumpyPaul]

Search my Pillar of Red. Its in the datbase...

Its a cracking Scottish Ale

Will do....when I get on a real puter and not this damn phone.

Thanks

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[Ducatiboy stu]

You really need w1728. And brew it low around 15*c.

Your on the the right track with 20IBU at 60mins only.

A Scottish should be sweet with just enough bitterness to be present.

Scottish beers where made with old expensive hops feremented at low tempratures due to the region. The initial runnings where boiled to csramalise the wort. The low hopping was due to the expense of the hopps

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

W1728 is also great in Porter & Stout

Can give a slight tartness to a proper Scottish. Also can handle up to 8% beers.

Like a Scottsman ....its wee good

 

[lael]

http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat/recipes/ale/scottish/recipes/10.html is the one I want to do next... well... there are a few in that line up... but Traquair House Ale is exceptionally tasty and this recipe gets very good writeups.


http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=61844&sid=a9742bbbc16483ef3c0aa0d829bbce04&start=0

the other Scottish Ale I've tasted and loved was Orkney Dark Island. - i haven't found much discussion on recipes / cloning it though - http://www.brewtoolz.com/recipes/353-dark-island-clone-ish is one of the few things I've found.

 

[djar007]

That first one looks like a good recipe Lael. I think I will try that one. Dont mind Northern Brewer or EKG so might just stick with EKG.

 

[stakka82]

Yeah laels first looks awesome. Love the simplicity.