New To Ag/biab

[mvolz]

Hello everyone. I have been extract brewing for about 2 yrs., and want to try the biab method. Looks pretty easy. My question is about recipes.Are biab recipes the same as any AG? Hop additions,grains,etc. Can you just follow any AG recipe,or do you need to adjust things a bit for biab? Oh yeah,Im new to the site,and am excited to learn from experienced all grainers how to do the biab.

Cheers,and thanks for any info

Matt

 

[felten]

In essence, no, you would copy the recipe exactly the same as you would for 3v or herms. The only differences come in with the process IE. no sparging, and with your own system's efficiency and boil off etc etc

If you are no-chilling as well however, you may have to alter the late hop additions.

 

[Swinging Beef]

BIAB IS AG!
Use the same recipies AG as normal and adjust to your taste the 2nd time round.
Everyones brewery and brewabilities are very different.

There is a good thread on the HOW TO BIAB somewhere and youtube is your friend.

 

[argon]

Yep BIAB recipes are identical to regular/traditional AG brewing.

Like has been said only difference is the process. Eg adding all your water premash, no sparging etc etc.
Have a read through the main biab thread that's airlocked in the AG section.

 

[QldKev]

I think copy 100% the recipe for traditional AG, and make several brews before you start changing them. Get used to your gear, get used to hitting your temperatures 100%; if you start to tweak them too soon you will end up all over the place. Make consistent beer, then make consistenly excellent beer. Not knocking other brewing methods, but your first AG will likely be better than your best brew prior; and I have tasted some pretty good kits and extract brews. Most importanly, enjoy your brew day. :icon_cheers:


QldKev

 

[Bribie G]

Hi, as you have been brewing for a couple of years already you should be well up to speed on 80 % of the process anyway, sanitation, temperature control, fermenting, bottling / kegging etc. So now all you need to concentrate on is the wort production step. My advice would be to start with a simple brew - such as an American Pale ale (ale malt, crystal malt and Cascade) or a UK equivalent with maybe all-goldings or Challenger.

You sometimes see new AG brewers starting off with something really ambitious like a choc vanilla smoked double whammo Belgian Hefe thingo with fifteen hop additions. :blink: Like Kev says, unless you keep it simple for the first few brews then you can end up all over the place.

You'll be fine :icon_cheers:

 

[Sammus]

whats all this here? BIAB is essentially using a fabric manifold in your mash tun, which also happens to be your kettle. There is no real difference in a fabric manifold compared to a stainless one or a copper one.

 

[mvolz]

Thanks for all the encouragement and advice. I just need to buy or make my bag,and also I think I will need a better immersion chiller. Since Ive only been mostly doing partial boils,I dont know if my ic will cool down the large volume of biab fast enough.Thanks again!

 

[manticle]

Research no chill and see if it's for you.

 

[Thirsty Boy]

Whereabouts are you located Matt? If you are in Melbourne, Spillsmostofit & I will be doing another one of our BIAB demonstration brews at Grain & Grape on the 11th of December. Come along, watch the process happen, ask a bunch of questions.

TB

 

[SpillsMostOfIt]

Whereabouts are you located Matt? If you are in Melbourne, Spillsmostofit & I will be doing another one of our BIAB demonstration brews at Grain & Grape on the 11th of December. Come along, watch the process happen, ask a bunch of questions.

TB

We'll be doing it even if Matt lives elsewhere!!!

</Pedantic_Arsehole>

 

[Thirsty Boy]

Correct on both counts

 

[mvolz]

Whereabouts are you located Matt? If you are in Melbourne, Spillsmostofit & I will be doing another one of our BIAB demonstration brews at Grain & Grape on the 11th of December. Come along, watch the process happen, ask a bunch of questions.

TB

I live in southeastern Indiana near Cicinnati,Oh.I dont think thats even close to where youre at.But thanks for the invite,wishI could attend.

 

[Thirsty Boy]

Yeah, that's a fair old ride on the bus for a Saturday morning demo... One of these days Spills and I will get our act together and sort out a way do a live webcast of the demos... Then everyone can come.

 

[dcx3]

Im going to start biab soon and was just curious do you have to make any adjutments for the recipes in the data base cos i just went and got the good old woolies 20lltr pot the other day and was wanting to do Docs golden ale on the stovetop...excuse my ignorance if this is obvious cheers.

 

[Thirsty Boy]

You don't need to change the ingredients etc for a recipe if you are using stock standard BIAB.... But given you have bought a 20L pot, I suspect you are probably planning on the higher gravity/sparged stovetop version... In which case I "think" you probably don't need to change.... But you might. Better wait for Nick or one of the other guys who does that version of BIAB to let you know for sure.

If you dot get a response (you probably will) just use the recipe you find as written. BIAB is just another way to brew AG and there is no fundamental difference to require a change.

TB

 

[kelbygreen]

you may have to alter the recipe. 1 for the volume as you would be looking at 20lt batch out of that pot and 2 you will prob be doing a boil more like 15lts so its a higher gravity so you may need to use more hops its not alot more but it is more.

Like a beer today if worked out on a 20lt boil its 30IBU but if you work it out on a 15lt boil its 24IBU so its a little different but I would mainly change bittering additions leave flavour ones the same as should still put off same flavours??? not 100% sure but sure some one will know

 

[dcx3]

Cool, thanks guys ill give it a crack sunday night cos ive got the grain etc. i just looked at it and thought wow thats most of the pot right there lol.
It will be an experiment in stupidity no doubt but mistakes are half the fun.

 

[kelbygreen]

Yeah sounds good I going to do my first proper BIAB tomorrow. Done a partial last week to figure it out and I was point by point on 75% eff i think so not to bad. But will be using a 33lt esky (will be a mash tun when I can afford the parts) that way can mash in there and pour into the pot and sparge in there as only have 1 pot. got some 25mm thick foam to push onto the wort so there is no head space. I set it all up today so its a matter of heating water and tipping the grain in then process as normal.

 

[rendo]

That'd be sweet!! Please do Spills and TB!!

Rendo

Yeah, that's a fair old ride on the bus for a Saturday morning demo... One of these days Spills and I will get our act together and sort out a way do a live webcast of the demos... Then everyone can come.