New Australian Drinking Guidelines

[HoppingMad]

What a crack up! At least you are honest with yourself... Im on the way of changing myself as a smoker to a non smoker it's the only way, dont quit just change your'e status! Do yourself a favour and get Allen Carr's Easyway to stop smoking.... It makes sense (and normally Im not into self help books) ! Ironically he died of lung cancer but that was due to passive smoking!

Agree with that one katie, two of my buddies were solid smokers and got that book and it worked wonders. Is written by an ex-smoker who loved to smoke. The most amazing thing about it is he actually encourages you to have your last cigarettes while you read it. Written in a real no-b.s. style that's not a lecture.

Hopper.

 

[Katherine]

Agree with that one katie, two of my buddies were solid smokers and got that book and it worked wonders. Is written by an ex-smoker who loved to smoke. The most amazing thing about it is he actually encourages you to have your last cigarettes while you read it. Written in a real no-b.s. style that's not a lecture.

Hopper.

He removes the desire to want to smoke... there are sessions availabile also, that is how he ended up getting cancer as his clients were smoking while he spoke! My partner and I are reading it at the same time. So far makes sense!

 

[altstart]

My granddad fell off his bike and died at the age of 96 on the way back from his local pub after his daily dose of at least 4 pints of light and bitter. He smoked roll ups made from Ogdens Nut Brown Tobbaco. I dont smoke gave it up in 1973 and drink only A/G beer with no presevatives or additives. On this basis I must be good for at least 130 years despite the goverments report. But even then I am concious that there are no survivors from life.
Cheers Altstart

 

[Pollux]

Katie, I feel great, being able to run more than 200m without feeling like my lungs are burning.....


If you ever want incentive, go out on a decent walk with a quick walking non-smoker.......it will show you how unfit smoking can make you.

These days I can hold an average of 7.1km/h on my 4.5km walk to work of a morning, I want to be hitting 10km/h in July (It's cooler then, so I may well be able to do it)

That said, there are times of temptation even now, my mum came to stay for my daughter's birthday party, she has smoked for over 30 years now and quit several times, but is back on them now..I would go and sit downstairs with her while she had her smoke of an evening while she was here, and a few times I could have easily grabbed one and lit it up...It's more a case of I "could" smoke if I wanted one, but I don't need to.

I'm also one of the few lucky Australians that still work in a smoke filled environment, I spend nearly 7 hours a day sitting across the table from people smoking either smokes or cigars during this time of the year, often in rooms with closed doors.....Oddly enough, this hasn't served as temptation, but my wife commenting on me stinking of it when I get home acts well as motivation to keep it up.


What was this thread about again???

 

[staggalee]

I'm also one of the few lucky Australians that still work in a smoke filled environment, I spend nearly 7 hours a day sitting across the table from people smoking either smokes or cigars during this time of the year, often in rooms with closed doors.....Oddly enough, this hasn't served as temptation, but my wife commenting on me stinking of it when I get home acts well as motivation to keep it up.


What was this thread about again???

Lucky?
I don`t get that.
What`s lucky about exposing yourself to passive smoke and lung cancer?
Didn`t somebody comment a couple of posts up how a reformed smoker died of lung cancer thru passive smoke?
{tho how did they determine passive smoke and not his own prev. smoking caused his death?}

stagga.

 

[Pollux]

Note the lucky is in italics.........sarcasm was intended...

 

[Cube]

I'm getting drunk as we speak. Dammit, I decided last night to give up the durries, and today is my first day without them. So I deserve a bloody beer or eight.

edit...hangs head with slight sense of shame, that it hasn't been completely free of the dreaded cancer sticks....I've had 2 today. I got weak. But normally by this time of day I've had about 30, so I think I still deserve that beer.

I have a handy little E Book that helps to stop smoking. I used it and now smoke free for nearly two years, don't even miss it. PM me if you want it.

Oh - and if you are about to die and need a puff, just have one. Half a smoke or what ever or you will most likely just cave and be a pack or more the next morning. Kicking a smoking habit is more about replacing or deleting the action than the smoking addiction. First week only this rule applies. Did for me and countless others.

 

[staggalee]

Note the lucky is in italics.........sarcasm was intended...

OK, I suppose saying you are unlucky would have served the same purpose.
But how do you feel about all that passive smoke you`re being subjected to day after day?
I`d be more than a bit concerned if it was me sitting there sucking that in.
And I`m surprised your workplace allows it to happen?

stagga.

 

[Pollux]

Honestly, it doesn't phase me too much...I'm still healthier than I was when I was smoking myself.

And I can assure you, there are still at least 4 workplaces on the east coast that allow this.

 

[staggalee]

Honestly, it doesn't phase me too much...I'm still healthier than I was when I was smoking myself.

And I can assure you, there are still at least 4 workplaces on the east coast that allow this.

I don`t doubt there is, but is that legal?
Where do they stand if a non smoker were to sue them for a smoke related illness contacted at work?

stagga.

 

[Pollux]

All staff have the option to be removed from the room if they so wish.

This is only in the private rooms, where the table limits are VERY high. I prefer to deal these games than low limit so I take it as part of the package.

Technically speaking, it isn't a public area hence patron can legally smoke, the only legal issue is that staff can not be forced to work in there.

 

[staggalee]

OK.
It`s a casino you`re working at?
Didn`t know that.

stagga.

 

[PostModern]

Kicking a smoking habit is more about replacing or deleting the action than the smoking addiction.

No, this is plain wrong. Nicotine is extremely addictive. Just like a junkie getting off smack trying to remain clean finding themselves wondering around Cabramatta or the Cross looking for a fix, smokers coming off the nicotine will just wander into a newsagent, supermarket, bottle shop, chip shop, service station, or whatever, see the brand they smoke, twitch and buy another pack. Problem is they're everywhere, so the strength needed to not cave is considerable.

The urge to keep smoking is very intense, it's got nothing to do with replacing the hand to mouth action for ~most people~. Drugs which are highly successful like Zyban and now Champix work by blocking nicotine receptors in the brain. Once there is no neurological reward for smoking, the habit dies. About 3 weeks into my course of Zyban, I just stopped smoking, period. Didn't find myself eating more, nibbling on pencils or whatever, the nicotine craving just left and so did the habit. Stupidly, a year later, I got hooked again via a cigar while playing golf. Bam, one hit of nicotine and I was back on the merry go round. Once a smoker, always a smoker. The only way to stay off is to never have "just one" once you've stopped, imho.

Anyway, I'm stopping Sunday or when my pack runs out, whichever comes sooner. Goes well with an alcohol free month. For me, beer and cigarettes are triggers for one another.

 

[mikem108]

Those new "Australian Drinking Guidelines" are frankly Un-Australian!

 

[deebee]

The urge to keep smoking is very intense, it's got nothing to do with replacing the hand to mouth action for ~most people~. Drugs which are highly successful like Zyban and now Champix work by blocking nicotine receptors in the brain. Once there is no neurological reward for smoking, the habit dies. About 3 weeks into my course of Zyban, I just stopped smoking, period. Didn't find myself eating more, nibbling on pencils or whatever, the nicotine craving just left and so did the habit. Stupidly, a year later, I got hooked again via a cigar while playing golf. Bam, one hit of nicotine and I was back on the merry go round. Once a smoker, always a smoker. The only way to stay off is to never have "just one" once you've stopped, imho.

I've spoken to quite a few junkies about this subject (my line of work) and they all agree. Cigarettes are much harder to kick than smack. One of them told me the hardest addiction to quit was internet porn, then cigs, then hammer.

A month off the grog? Easy. (Day 4 for me.)

 

[Pollux]

Stagga - Yeah....Croupier by trade, or as some call me Provider of Misery.

PoMo- I know a few people for whom zyban had failed.


As for the drinking guidelines, as others have said, pointless....

That should have announced something people may actually stick to.

 

[PostModern]

PoMo- I know a few people for whom zyban had failed.

Doesn't work for everyone. Depends on your addiction type. My Mrs is a trained smoking ceasation professional and identified me as the right personality type for Zyban, as evidenced by how quickly my addiction returned. Unfortunately, I had a reaction to Zyban in the way of rashes. I still bear the scars of the reaction on my hands, but I was determined to stop, so I put up with the side effects.... only to get back on the f*%king things a year later. Champix is supposed to be much better, but I'm not going that way this time. Cold turkey, so I can do penance for being stupid enough to start again.

 

[Ross]

I've spoken to quite a few junkies about this subject (my line of work) and they all agree. Cigarettes are much harder to kick than smack. One of them told me the hardest addiction to quit was internet porn, then cigs, then hammer.

A month off the grog? Easy. (Day 4 for me.)

Sod going dry for a month, but I'll give the internet porn a miss.......day 1 & already got the shakes :icon_chickcheers:


Cheers Ross

 

[staggalee]

Was it Zyban that caused problems in USA a few years ago?
I thought people on it were at risk of heart probs etc, and they reviewed it or took it off the market {in USA anyway}?

stagga.

 

[staggalee]

Stagga - Yeah....Croupier by trade, or as some call me Provider of Mise

Any chance of you and I teaming up and working some scam at the tables?
No else would ever know. h34r:

stagga.