Mini Keg Growler EOI

[kcurnow]

2lt jobbies
Yob: 2 - No ongoing shipping
Fraser_John: 4, 3 without dispensing unit, 1 with dispensing unit - Shipping Geelong
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
Topher: 1 - Sydney
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up, plus dispensing
takai: 2 - pickup, pending price
WillCowan x 2 without dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70: 2 Sydney
620rossco 1- Coffs Harbour Plus dispensing
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit- Brisbane
Total: 18

4lt jobbies
Husky: 1 - Pick Up
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
frag_dog: 1 - Brisbane
n87: 3 - Sydney (North Ryde)
bradsbrew: 1 - Kallangur
barls 1 - sydney price dependent
Topher 1 - Sydney. Also keen on dispening stuff price dependent.
Hophead2. : 1 Brisbane
Wolfman: 2 depends on price pick up
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up
BirkdaleBob - Brisbane - 1
Masters- pick up -2
takai : 1 pending price, pickup
Grainer x 1
jonnir x 2 with dispensing. Brisbane. Price pending
WillCowan x 1 with dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70 x 1 with dispensing - Sydney
620Rossco x 1 Coffs Harbour
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
AJ80 x 2 + dispensing equipment - price dependant
Kaiserben x 3 + dispensing equipment - Sydney - price pending.
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit - Brisbane
Total: 28

 

[spaced]

Registering interest in 4L pending price.

 

[Yob]

Registering interest in 4L pending price.

Please add your name to the list that you're interested in.

Cheers

 

[Crunched]

Here you go. I've had a few messages asking for more pics and thoughts on different ways to set up the unit. To be honest, the problem with these portable setups is the lack of balancing and back pressure. So you can try what you like with different taps, different flow restrictors, different regulators, etc. You're always going to get the same result. If you just want beer for a picnic and you'll be the one serving, then it's easy enough to turn off the gas, bleed the pressure, then slowly feed on the gas while you open the tap. But if you want something that people can help themselves to - get a 9L corny, a few metres of beer line and a tap through an esky.

You can see in the pics the plastic flow restrictor that I was talking about. You can also see the regulator - this one accepts 12g and 16g soda bulbs and allows a bit finer control. It was about $5 more than the keg king style one from memory.

 

[Zorco]

, I may end up getting a sample of each in to check before we do anything at all yet.

Yob, good science and research costs money and in light of your QA efforts on behalf of the group, PM me your bank account details and I'll flick $10 over to you for this BB research / sample procurement.

iKegger might offer one of his 2L units at risk or at a proportion of price for our evaluation through Yob.

Where I imagine this possibly going is

Evaluation Criteria
- Mass - gauging steel wall thickness
- pouring efficacy
- stainless quality - some simple oxidation chemistry to do
- [Any more team?]

Units to compare (3)
- Crunched - would you potentially supply Yob with one of the set you own? Incentive: we pay freight to and from for a 2l unit and a few of us send you a tallie of our better batches in thanks. If other AHB members join the scientific research pledge then we might even take one off your hands for a number you're happy with.
- iKegger 2l. Provided to Yob free for evaluation only, or at a proportion of cost to participate.
- New Supplier to be identified.

Potential pay offs
- Crunched has his keg returned cleaned and a pledge of tallies from the AHB community.
- iKegger stumps up a sample with potential to win the full size of this bulk buy in addition to the street cred. (You'll need to be prepared for community review and support en mass in this public domain)

Well, there are a couple of loose ends still in this IDEA, and like anything, open to negotiation to reach satisfaction.

Where would the samples go at the end of all this....Well who knows... Yob might keep them and donate $80 to starlight foundation helping kids have fun while they can.

Only an IDEA. there are simpler approaches.


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EDIT: getz wordz right and stuff

 

[Yob]

Yep, I've seen those, not the ones I'm looking at though, they make ones with ball lock connections. I'm guessing that the type of gas charger will largely not adress the foaming issues.

Maybe I need to get one of each

 

[barls]

id be more interested in the ball lock ones.

 

[Yob]

Yeah, me to barls, that's the road I'm headed down, shipping is a bitch though... MOQ is 48 too...

 

[Yob]

like zis

 

[technobabble66]

id be more interested in the ball lock ones.

SNAP
Ball lock FTW.

Maybe Yob can chuck $1-2 onto everyone's total at the end of the BB (you KNOW this'll go ahead somehow eventually [emoji57]) to cover some of his R&D. Seems fair and easy - not profiteering, just covering costs of a sample or 2, which obviously he'll keep as a *tiny* benefit of being the organizer of this mammoth task). I'd happily pay a dollar or 2 (or 3!) to have a little more reassurance these won't start rusting in 3 months time.

Mutha, now I'm gonna have to put my name onto that infernal list! I'm meant to be on holidays!!

 

[technobabble66]

2lt jobbies
Yob: 2 - No ongoing shipping
Fraser_John: 4, 3 without dispensing unit, 1 with dispensing unit - Shipping Geelong
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
Topher: 1 - Sydney
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up, plus dispensing
takai: 2 - pickup, pending price
WillCowan x 2 without dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70: 2 Sydney
620rossco 1- Coffs Harbour Plus dispensing
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit- Brisbane
Technobabble x1(or 2) no dispensing unit - price & rust dependent.
Total: 19

4lt jobbies
Husky: 1 - Pick Up
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
frag_dog: 1 - Brisbane
n87: 3 - Sydney (North Ryde)
bradsbrew: 1 - Kallangur
barls 1 - sydney price dependent
Topher 1 - Sydney. Also keen on dispening stuff price dependent.
Hophead2. : 1 Brisbane
Wolfman: 2 depends on price pick up
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up
BirkdaleBob - Brisbane - 1
Masters- pick up -2
takai : 1 pending price, pickup
Grainer x 1
jonnir x 2 with dispensing. Brisbane. Price pending
WillCowan x 1 with dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70 x 1 with dispensing - Sydney
620Rossco x 1 Coffs Harbour
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
AJ80 x 2 + dispensing equipment - price dependant
Kaiserben x 3 + dispensing equipment - Sydney - price pending.
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit - Brisbane
Technobabble x2 + 1 dispensing unit (v prefer ball lock, tho), price & rust dependent.
Total: 30

 

[Yob]

and we need to halt here... shipping load is 48 I think...

Lets let the dust settle and see where we are..

2lt jobbies
Yob: 2 - No ongoing shipping
Fraser_John: 4, 3 without dispensing unit, 1 with dispensing unit - Shipping Geelong
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
Topher: 1 - Sydney
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up, plus dispensing
takai: 2 - pickup, pending price
WillCowan x 2 without dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70: 2 Sydney
620rossco 1- Coffs Harbour Plus dispensing
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit- Brisbane
Technobabble x1(or 2) no dispensing unit - price & rust dependent.
Total: 19

4lt jobbies
Husky: 1 - Pick Up
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
frag_dog: 1 - Brisbane
n87: 3 - Sydney (North Ryde)
bradsbrew: 1 - Kallangur
barls 1 - sydney price dependent
Topher 1 - Sydney. Also keen on dispening stuff price dependent.
Hophead2. : 1 Brisbane
Wolfman: 2 depends on price pick up
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up
BirkdaleBob - Brisbane - 1
Masters- pick up -2
takai : 1 pending price, pickup
Grainer x 1
jonnir x 2 with dispensing. Brisbane. Price pending
WillCowan x 1 with dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70 x 1 with dispensing - Sydney
620Rossco x 1 Coffs Harbour
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
AJ80 x 2 + dispensing equipment - price dependant
Kaiserben x 3 + dispensing equipment - Sydney - price pending.
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit - Brisbane
Technobabble x2 + 1 dispensing unit (v prefer ball lock, tho), price & rust dependent.
Total: 30

 

[spaced]

and we need to halt here... shipping load is 48 I think...

Lets let the dust settle and see where we are..

2lt jobbies
Yob: 2 - No ongoing shipping
Fraser_John: 4, 3 without dispensing unit, 1 with dispensing unit - Shipping Geelong
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
Topher: 1 - Sydney
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up, plus dispensing
takai: 2 - pickup, pending price
WillCowan x 2 without dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70: 2 Sydney
620rossco 1- Coffs Harbour Plus dispensing
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit- Brisbane
Technobabble x1(or 2) no dispensing unit - price & rust dependent.
Total: 19
4lt jobbies
Husky: 1 - Pick Up
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
frag_dog: 1 - Brisbane
n87: 3 - Sydney (North Ryde)
bradsbrew: 1 - Kallangur
barls 1 - sydney price dependent
Topher 1 - Sydney. Also keen on dispening stuff price dependent.
Hophead2. : 1 Brisbane
Wolfman: 2 depends on price pick up
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up
BirkdaleBob - Brisbane - 1
Masters- pick up -2
takai : 1 pending price, pickup
Grainer x 1
jonnir x 2 with dispensing. Brisbane. Price pending
WillCowan x 1 with dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70 x 1 with dispensing - Sydney
620Rossco x 1 Coffs Harbour
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
AJ80 x 2 + dispensing equipment - price dependant
Kaiserben x 3 + dispensing equipment - Sydney - price pending.
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit - Brisbane
Technobabble x2 + 1 dispensing unit (v prefer ball lock, tho), price & rust dependent.
Spaced - Brisbane (pending quote)
Total: 30

 

[Yob]

and we need to halt here... shipping load is 48 I think...

Lets let the dust settle and see where we are..

2lt jobbies
Yob: 2 - No ongoing shipping
Fraser_John: 4, 3 without dispensing unit, 1 with dispensing unit - Shipping Geelong
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
Topher: 1 - Sydney
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up, plus dispensing
takai: 2 - pickup, pending price
WillCowan x 2 without dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70: 2 Sydney
620rossco 1- Coffs Harbour Plus dispensing
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit- Brisbane
Technobabble x1(or 2) no dispensing unit - price & rust dependent.
Total: 19
4lt jobbies
Husky: 1 - Pick Up
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
frag_dog: 1 - Brisbane
n87: 3 - Sydney (North Ryde)
bradsbrew: 1 - Kallangur
barls 1 - sydney price dependent
Topher 1 - Sydney. Also keen on dispening stuff price dependent.
Hophead2. : 1 Brisbane
Wolfman: 2 depends on price pick up
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up
BirkdaleBob - Brisbane - 1
Masters- pick up -2
takai : 1 pending price, pickup
Grainer x 1
jonnir x 2 with dispensing. Brisbane. Price pending
WillCowan x 1 with dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70 x 1 with dispensing - Sydney
620Rossco x 1 Coffs Harbour
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
AJ80 x 2 + dispensing equipment - price dependant
Kaiserben x 3 + dispensing equipment - Sydney - price pending.
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit - Brisbane
Technobabble x2 + 1 dispensing unit (v prefer ball lock, tho), price & rust dependent.

Total: 30

Reserve List

Spaced - Brisbane (pending quote)

Total: 1

 

[madpierre06]

and we need to halt here... shipping load is 48 I think...

Lets let the dust settle and see where we are..

2lt jobbies
Yob: 2 - No ongoing shipping
Fraser_John: 4, 3 without dispensing unit, 1 with dispensing unit - Shipping Geelong
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
Topher: 1 - Sydney
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up, plus dispensing
takai: 2 - pickup, pending price
WillCowan x 2 without dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70: 2 Sydney
620rossco 1- Coffs Harbour Plus dispensing
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit- Brisbane
Technobabble x1(or 2) no dispensing unit - price & rust dependent.
Total: 19
Reserve
madpierre06 x 1 + disp. - brisbane price/issues dependent
Total: 1

4lt jobbies
Husky: 1 - Pick Up
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
frag_dog: 1 - Brisbane
n87: 3 - Sydney (North Ryde)
bradsbrew: 1 - Kallangur
barls 1 - sydney price dependent
Topher 1 - Sydney. Also keen on dispening stuff price dependent.
Hophead2. : 1 Brisbane
Wolfman: 2 depends on price pick up
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up
BirkdaleBob - Brisbane - 1
Masters- pick up -2
takai : 1 pending price, pickup
Grainer x 1
jonnir x 2 with dispensing. Brisbane. Price pending
WillCowan x 1 with dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70 x 1 with dispensing - Sydney
620Rossco x 1 Coffs Harbour
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
AJ80 x 2 + dispensing equipment - price dependant
Kaiserben x 3 + dispensing equipment - Sydney - price pending.
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit - Brisbane
Technobabble x2 + 1 dispensing unit (v prefer ball lock, tho), price & rust dependent.

Total: 30

Reserve List

Spaced x 1 - Brisbane (pending quote)
madpierre06 x 1 + disp. - Brisbane - price and other issues dependent

Total: 2

 

[bouncingcastle]

and we need to halt here... shipping load is 48 I think...

Lets let the dust settle and see where we are..

2lt jobbies
Yob: 2 - No ongoing shipping
Fraser_John: 4, 3 without dispensing unit, 1 with dispensing unit - Shipping Geelong
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
Topher: 1 - Sydney
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up, plus dispensing
takai: 2 - pickup, pending price
WillCowan x 2 without dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70: 2 Sydney
620rossco 1- Coffs Harbour Plus dispensing
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit- Brisbane
Technobabble x1(or 2) no dispensing unit - price & rust dependent.
Total: 19
Reserve
madpierre06 x 1 + disp. - brisbane price/issues dependent
Total: 1
4lt jobbies
Husky: 1 - Pick Up
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
frag_dog: 1 - Brisbane
n87: 3 - Sydney (North Ryde)
bradsbrew: 1 - Kallangur
barls 1 - sydney price dependent
Topher 1 - Sydney. Also keen on dispening stuff price dependent.
Hophead2. : 1 Brisbane
Wolfman: 2 depends on price pick up
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up
BirkdaleBob - Brisbane - 1
Masters- pick up -2
takai : 1 pending price, pickup
Grainer x 1
jonnir x 2 with dispensing. Brisbane. Price pending
WillCowan x 1 with dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70 x 1 with dispensing - Sydney
620Rossco x 1 Coffs Harbour
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
AJ80 x 2 + dispensing equipment - price dependant
Kaiserben x 3 + dispensing equipment - Sydney - price pending.
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit - Brisbane
Technobabble x2 + 1 dispensing unit (v prefer ball lock, tho), price & rust dependent.

Total: 30

Reserve List

Spaced x 1 - Brisbane (pending quote)
madpierre06 x 1 + disp. - Brisbane - price and other issues dependent
Bouncingcastle- 1x 4l disp., 1x2l (Melbourne) depending on price

Total: 3

 

[nainsook]

2lt jobbies
Yob: 2 - No ongoing shipping
Fraser_John: 4, 3 without dispensing unit, 1 with dispensing unit - Shipping Geelong
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
Topher: 1 - Sydney
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up, plus dispensing
takai: 2 - pickup, pending price
WillCowan x 2 without dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70: 2 Sydney
620rossco 1- Coffs Harbour Plus dispensing
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit- Brisbane
Technobabble x1(or 2) no dispensing unit - price & rust dependent.
Total: 19
Reserve
madpierre06 x 1 + disp. - brisbane price/issues dependent
Total: 1
4lt jobbies
Husky: 1 - Pick Up
Cosdog: 1 - Brisbane
frag_dog: 1 - Brisbane
n87: 3 - Sydney (North Ryde)
bradsbrew: 1 - Kallangur
barls 1 - sydney price dependent
Topher 1 - Sydney. Also keen on dispening stuff price dependent.
Hophead2. : 1 Brisbane
Wolfman: 2 depends on price pick up
timmi9191 1 - price dependant, pick up
BirkdaleBob - Brisbane - 1
Masters- pick up -2
takai : 1 pending price, pickup
Grainer x 1
jonnir x 2 with dispensing. Brisbane. Price pending
WillCowan x 1 with dispensing - Pick up - Price pending
durham70 x 1 with dispensing - Sydney
620Rossco x 1 Coffs Harbour
GoodDuck x 1 - Pickup - price depending
AJ80 x 2 + dispensing equipment - price dependant
Kaiserben x 3 + dispensing equipment - Sydney - price pending.
Brewnut x 1 no dispensing unit - Brisbane
Technobabble x2 + 1 dispensing unit (v prefer ball lock, tho), price & rust dependent.

Total: 30

Reserve List

Spaced x 1 - Brisbane (pending quote)
madpierre06 x 1 + disp. - Brisbane - price and other issues dependent
Bouncingcastle- 1x 4l disp., 1x2l (Melbourne) depending on price
nainsook: 1x4L
Total: 4

 

[Grainer]

any news on this ?

 

[Yob]

Winding up the barrel bulk buy. Chief steward for Beerfest, 2 kids under 3, day job, HDA, house, wife, car, garden plantation, beer.

No... Not yet

 

[barls]

use the time your wasting sleeping mate.

 

[Yob]

time for some open clarity..

I got a little skeptical after some of the feedback, aligned with the fact the OS suppliers were a little less than 'open' about specification and communication was a little lax.. I could push it though but to be honest, I dont think Ive got the strength and nor do I want to tarnish my Bulk Buy runs with a vast amount of sub standard products.

sooooo..

Ive been contacted by numerous 'local' suppliers and been given a price point with postage options, Ive got to say, its fairly attractive from a warranty point of view and a "it saves my marriage" point of view...

I need to correlate the price points before I commit, but I can say, it's likely to go ahead, Im still keen and may well opt out of the 2L ones in favor of the 4L or 5L versions.. all will come branded but I dont think any of us will give 2 ***** about that, the only unknown at this point is which brand.

I should be able to clarify prices during the coming week.

Yob

 

[WillCowan]

Sounds great Yob, looking forward to more developments.

Cheers

 

[Yob]

Ive set up the Spread-sheet for pricing comparison this morning, looking like I have a preferred supplier, just waiting on a few details so I can be clear in my mind what's on the table.

Id be looking to secure this order and payments in the next few weeks and get it closed off.... too many bulk buys makes Yob a little crazy...

 

[Grainer]

Good work mate.. I know there is a lot of background research to find the best result..YOB = BB LEGEND :beerbang:

 

[roastinrich]

Interesting review
http://www.brewsnews.com.au/2016/03/roadtesting-the-ikegger-growler-and-tap/

 

[Crunched]

After several attempts and following the instructions to the letter, it was quite hard to maintain a pouring pressure that didn’t result in either no beer coming out, or pouring a beer that was almost entirely head. I feel like a better quality, more sensitive regulator could have addressed this issue.
After some fiddling around I did eventually get a good pour, but for me the juice has to be worth the squeeze, and in my mind the tap system needs some work before I’d drop $100+ on it.

These were the issues that I was talking about. A better reg won't fix the issue (I actually had a better reg), it's more to do with balancing. I had the same thing - fiddle around and you can get a decent pour, but then the pressure needed for that ends up causing foaming once you've left it for a while and go for a second pour. If you replaced the tap with a length of beer line and a picnic tap (or whatever), you'd probably not have the issue. But then you can do all that with a 9L corny for less $$.

 

[Yob]

One of the reasons Im interested in the Dual Post head unit, at least I can just attach my pluto gun to it.

 

[Yob]

like zis

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like zis... I think these will be of some value and are the ones Im chasing right now

 

[Crunched]

The supplier I sent you details of has those caps.

But like I said, you may as well buy a 9L corny. If you're after something smaller, then Craftbrewer already has everything you need for around $100. Only difference is it comes as a 2L stainless growler with reg and tap, instead of a mini-keg with reg and tap.

https://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/details.asp?PID=5148
https://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/details.asp?PID=5645
https://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/details.asp?PID=4995

If you really have to have the mini keg and want to save cash, ask that supplier I sent you details of for their version of the plastic cap that Craftbrewer sell. I've got their catalog if you want me to post pictures?

 

[Yob]

Personally, I'll not be getting any 2l versions, I've got enough.. I just got 4 more as a prize on top of the 8 or 9 glass ones I had..

4l mini tanks are perfect for my size batches as I still brew about 23-25l.

When I've posted the prices and details I'm sure many will follow suit.

I've seen those plastic head units and frankly we will do better.

I'm not going to import myself, we will be using a local supplier (Australian that is, not Victorian) the os suppliers were less than forward with the detail I was after so **** em.. Besides, local buy, local warranty.

Admittedly the prices were fantastic, but if they wont communicate readily, back themselves and their products. I'd rather support local than risk falling foul with other peoples money