Is there a good ' cheap' AG brew?

[Rocker1986]

Achieving: When you have a sexual other and actually convince them you're not repulsive for 6 minutes....

Dosing them with beer helps with that. My relationship hasn't hit that stage yet. Definitely more *** than brewing taking place. :lol:

 

[wereprawn]

Dosing them with beer helps with that. My relationship hasn't hit that stage yet. Definitely more *** than brewing taking place. :lol:

Your gonna end up crippling the poor lass if you make those 6 hour sessions a regular thing.

 

[rude]

Plus the 6 hours you could be achieving ***???? Do you think you might just be over estimating that a little? Let me readjust that calculation. Pursuing *** = 6 hours. Achieving *** = 6 minutes.

Beer is a better investment of your time. At least you can't drink your investment in 6 minutes.

Ah the old victor lawn mower 2 stroke

Why not *** while you make beer doggy porter anyone

 

[Matplat]

And that perception of coin... run with $40 on the cube...compare to $15 on AG yourself.

$15 ingredients
$8 on your gas
$3 on cleaning and sanitation
$20 on brewing (not kegging) hardware investment (what's fair? 1 brew a month: $240/year?)
6 hours of labour

So a savings of negative $5 by doing it all yourself. Plus those 6 hours when you could be pursuing or achieving ***.

That's some sort of back of the napkin calc.....

How do you manage to spend that much on gas and cleaning??? I have set up my system for now, and certainly don't plan to be spending that much on equipment annually... plus it's more like 2-3 brews per month....

 

[Bribie G]

I'd agree on sub $20 for ingredients for most simple beers such as an English Bitter or Aussie pale if buying ingredients in bulk and reusing yeast up to 5 generations.

However using the urn for an hour and a half (including ramping to strike temperature) at 20 cents per Kwh = around 75 cents, and my perc and starsan supplies last for up to a year.. maybe 30 cents per brew.

As to amortising the costs of equipment, however, I'd rather not go there. haha.

 

[Dave70]

Is there such a thing as a cheap all grain brew that is really yummy or even mildly delicious that doesn't cost much?
Maybe a smash beer with one or two grains and one hop.
Possible???
Not???

Why skimp on grains? Why limit yourself to dull as ******* SMASH beer?
All base malts are roughly the same price, spec malts are a only few cents dearer.
Splash out on a suitable bottle conditioned beer, like Frankenheimer or Weihenstephaner and harvest the dregs in a sanitized jar (pinch one from the neighbors recycling bin), go a 50 / 50 mix of pale and pils malt, save more money on expensive DME by drawing off some wort and watering it down to around 1.020 to make a starter, use a tiny amount of Hallertauer to about 14 IBU and you've got a very respectable heffe - providing you control the ferment temps.
Collect some timber from the bush or roadside to build a fire for the boil.
Re use the yeast 50 times.

 

[GibboQLD]

Re use the yeast 50 times.

Or just keep using it indefinitely and call it your house strain!

 

[Zorco]

Not one like, nadda, zip, zilch Edit: thanks Moad :icon_cheers:

The old Cosdog did a bit of the ye'old debating and can take nearly all points of view as his own..... for fun.

All for the punch line....which was gold. Sexy Gold. But me feelz this need to say..........I only set up the play. It isn't my brewing philo pastry if you wit me.

:lol: h34r: h34r:

 

[Lethaldog]

Good and cheap depends on the brewer, if you don't clean and sanitize properly the it can get expensive tipping it down the drain, any AG beer is pretty cheap in comparison to what you would buy and most will be pretty drinkable but the more experience you have the better it will get !

 

[Weizguy]

I'd agree with MHB re the malt liquor, but it would be very expensive here, due to our alcohol excise laws.

Here's a link to a recipe for Rogue's "Daddy's little helper", the Rogue Malt Liquor.

I made a cream ale earlier this year, for under $1 per litre, and that was using expensive flaked rice. Would be even cheaper with flaked corn or polenta.
Seems to me that American Cream Ale is just a lower alcohol version of Malt liquor.

Depends what you like. German-style wheat beer can be cheap enough if you use Aus malt and wheat. Not much hops required. But always, ALWAYS use a genuine weizen yeast, for best flavours.

 

[Zorco]

Dukes of error upon me. Chalk me up for a shame face MHB.

Malt liquor is not _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

 

[dr K]

Oettinger

 

[pat_00]

I brew my old man a *******ised kolsch occasionally. His favourite beer is cascade premium, so I don't bother getting fancy.

Pilsner malt,a handful of vienna, bugger all hops and ferment with US05 at low temp. He likes it and I find it pretty drinkable given it's had a month or so of cold ageing.

 

[PoN]

I dont really care too much for cost, I dont harvest yeast or buy grains in bulk.

A 20L batch for me usually works out to around $27-$32. $5-7 for yeast, $4-5 per kg for milled grain, $7.90 for a 90g pack of hops.

At the moment I have a heap of left over hops to use up so really all I am buying for my brews is grain and yeast.

Still its about half the cost of buying a carton from dan murphys

 

[Rocker1986]

I should note that I don't buy grains in bulk purely because of the cost factor. It's also more convenient to be able to mill grains as needed, and adjust the crush to suit my needs (i.e. more control), than buy grains per batch and have them milled elsewhere. But to each their own. B)

 

[Hpal]

There are hundreds of all-grain recipes that are cheap, simple and amazing. Cheap doesn't have to mean mediocre beer. Try a Saison, a shade over $20 for 20L. Great tasting beer. I'm doing another one soon and you can be drinking it in 7 days if kegging.
81% Pilsner malt, or really any base malt you have like Ale etc. Doesn't matter, it's such a broad style.
15% wheat malt
4% carapils (if you don't have this, leave it out)
A bittering hop such as Norther Brewer, Magnum or whatever 18 IBU 40 mins
A noble aroma hop at flameout at 0.5g/L

mash 65 degrees for 60 mins
Boil 70 mins, no chill

Ferment 25 degrees with Belle Saison dry yeast.
OG 1.044
FG 1.003
Alc 5.3%

This is a cracker.

 

[Frothy1]

What kind of beer do you like Nick667?

Brewing your own is an interesting journey of finding out what ingredients you like in a beer.

 

[Nick667]

Ive been brewing some really great APAs and a really out there new age amber that is delicious with Riwaka and Fuggles.
Prices for me range from $NZ28 - $55 and I do get the odd bad batch now and them witch ramps the price up on average.
I was just curious to know how low the price can go and still have a decent flavour and balance with around 4%abv.
Appreciate the replies.