Indian Pale Lager?

[Andrew Coleman]

Anyone tried creating an IPA with a lager yeast or something similar, its something i havent heard much about before, and thought it'd be a decent topic to start, i myself like a hoppy lager and higher alcohol content in lagers also, so would like to know peoples thoughts and ideas...or links if this has been discussed b4 and i couldn't find it hehe

 

[neonmeate]

Anyone tried creating an IPA with a lager yeast or something similar, its something i havent heard much about before, and thought it'd be a decent topic to start, i myself like a hoppy lager and higher alcohol content in lagers also, so would like to know peoples thoughts and ideas...or links if this has been discussed b4 and i couldn't find it hehe

try christoffel blond
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/christoffel-bier---blond/4567/

beautiful stuff

 

[joecast]

interesting idea, but with a lager yeast i think you would be narrowing your margin for error. whats that mean?
with a neutral ale yeast you're pretty well set. you might have esters or not, its not a big deal. you've got enough hop and malt character that they will basicaly dominate or perhaps compliment what your yeast is adding.
with a lager yeast, if fermentation gets away from you the yeast will distract from the rest of the beers character. and i cant think of one high abv pale lager that ive liked. they all come out like rocket fuel.

not saying it cant make a good or even great beer. and done well, it could be fantastic. im just not sure its worth taking the risk with a formula that is proven to work.
then again, i rarely take any risks with yeats. i still prefer dry ale yeast for 90% of my brews.

on the other hand...im drinking a pils right now that does have a delicate, soft malt and yeast character and i wonder how that would translate into what you are talking about. good luck if you try it.
joe

 

[manticle]

i cant think of one high abv pale lager that ive liked. they all come out like rocket fuel.

Never had a doppelbock, eisbock or baltic porter then?

 

[Muggus]

Imperial Pilsner perhaps?
Bit less malt accentuation perhaps, but with hops smack bang in the face.

 

[joecast]

Never had a doppelbock, eisbock or baltic porter then?

pale lager. for some reason the dark ones seem to bring everything together much better. the smoothness from a baltic porter/dopplebock seems to go missing from the pale versions.