Help Beer Cloning

[Marty1000000]

Hello all.

I'm a K&K brewer who uses tea bag hops to add to the brew. Currently doing lagers in a temp controlled fridge. I don't know much about defining beer characteristics and therefore am out of my depth using software to design a brew.

Liquorland are the distributor for "Bavaria" Beer (made in Holland by Hollandia). I like this beer as a quaffing beer and would like to clone it. (I know the purists would ask "why" but for some reason I just like this beer).

Thus in short, is it possible for anyone who has had experience with this beer and more knowledge on the subject than I, to give me general guidance on what would approximate this beer?
Which extract can as a base, dex/malto/ etc, tea bag hops (if any), and suggested dry yeast?
I know that K&K and dry yeast is a bit limiting but guidance to get in the ballpark with this beer would also be appreciated, as I like the simplicity and am in the "groove" of K&K brewing.
With thanks!!
Marty.

 

[Mr Bond]

quite simply,extract based beer will never attenuate to the dry crisp level of a commercial lager,no matter what the yeast.You will always end up with a fuller bodied sweeter style than that of the commercial beer.

At a guess hallertau or tetnanger would be on the money for flava and aroma.

 

[RobboMC]

off 'the beer store' website

Brewer: BAVARIA
Alcohol Content: 5.0%
Type of Beer: Lager
Bavaria Holland Beer is a Pilsener type of beer with a smooth, neutral character. Brewed only with clear spring water, selected malts and hops. It's light in colour with a firm foamy head.

I'd start with any top quality Pilsener kit and add about one and a half kilos of whatever the kit you choose recommends. That should give you a nice strongish pilsener.

I'm not a pilsener fan so I've never brewed it, but the rest of the Coopers Brewmaster kits are pretty good so why not start with the Thomas Coopers Brewmaster Pilsener. This kit has Saaz hops. They suggest 500g DME and 300g dex, resulting in about 4% alcohol, so maybe add 500g of Brew Enhancer 2 as well to get up to 5%, or double the dry malt for a maltier result.

They provide true lager yeast with this kit, so you can brew it at low temps to get the cleanest crispest lager you are able to make yourself, depending on your other brewing skills like racking, cold conditioning and a diacetal rest.

If you really want to make great lager, get a text book about brewing. Jonathan Palmer's book devotes a whole chapter to lager brewing, it's too big to follow here. It's a lot more complex than making ales.

 

[Marty1000000]

Appreciate the info Robbo!
Will give it a go!
Cheers,
Marty.