Greens Call For Excise Change To Help Microbreweries Help The Economy

[winkle]

I bet there would be some 99 year rule on access to THAT information.

Not really, how many greens senators are there?

 

[pk.sax]

Not really, how many greens senators are there?

9

 

[ashley_leask]

HANSARD shows records of votes. For an example see p.13 of this document.

Shouldn't take too long for the proof of the session to go online at http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/hanssen.htm

 

[pk.sax]

http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search...esCount=Default

The journal should be up tomorrow it seems.

 

[booargy]

bloody greenies. why should gov support small business. corporations need more subsidies because they don't have much money and they are the ones who create jobs. :unsure:
"let them have mega swill"

 

[Lord Raja Goomba I]

bloody greenies.

Wasn't their fault. They raised the bill and voted for it.

Goomba

 

[booargy]

Wasn't their fault. They raised the bill and voted for it.

Goomba

I vote for them, who else is there. the laborals have done their dash. They have both sold our country to corporations and individuals (fox studios prime real estate V's olympic site former toxic waste dump). We pay taxes to have a public service and infrastructure.
The way I see it The Greens haven't had a chance to stuff the joint yet. So I am willing to give them a fair go. The Laborals are just garbage. :icon_vomit:

 

[DU99]

76 senate 150 lower house where were they we the vote was required..majority of the house wasn't there..how can you win

 

[DJR]

Can only hope the Greens add it to the list of "deal breakers" that they need the Labor party to sign up to if they want legislation passed in a hung parliament.

That'd be great to watch - the useless major parties getting squeezed over beer

 

[DJR]

http://greensmps.org.au/content/media-rele...%E2%80%99t-give

The Australian Greens will continue to work to reform the definition of a microbrewery for tax purposes, helping more innovative small businesses become medium-sized businesses and increasing tax revenues, despite Labor, the Liberals and the Nationals all voting against a motion on the issue today.

Microbreweries can only access the excise refund that other small local producers get if they brew less than 30,000 litres a year. This limit, and the $10,000 cap on the total refund, is stifling the growth of the industry, allowing further market domination by imported beers.

"I'm very disappointed that the government and opposition refuse to appreciate the special place that microbreweries have in Australia's food culture, and the local jobs in rural and regional areas that they create," Australian Greens Deputy Leader, Senator Christine Milne, said.

"Like small wineries, microbreweries are also becoming tourist attraction, spurring further development and job creation across the regions.

"But, while small wineries can claim back all the excise they pay under the Wine Equalisation Tax, only breweries of a very small size that is out of step with industry reality can claim an excise rebate.

"A study in 2008 by Street Ryan Associates showed that, if the government lifted the threshold for microbreweries, tax receipts would actually increase thanks to the growth of businesses.

"The Greens will keep pushing the government to consider this easy step that will not only help small businesses become medium-sized businesses but also help all Australians, when we drink responsibly, to drink great quality Australian beer.

"Those who support this simple change should contact their representatives at the tax summit and ask that it be put on the agenda."

The motion reads:

That the Senate notes that:

Microbreweries are important niche businesses in Australia, providing valuable job opportunities and economic growth particularly in rural and regional areas;
Microbreweries need recognition within the tax system through the Microbrewery Refund, given that they are competing in a domestic market heavily dominated by multinational companies;
The Microbrewery Refund was introduced in 2000, and that the definition of a microbrewery has not been reviewed and is now markedly out of step with industry reality;
The maximum excise refund has remained capped at $10,000, while the beer excise has been raised twice a year for the last eleven years with CPI;

Calls on the Government to:
Amend the definition of a Microbrewery under Excise Regulation 1925 2AB, so that a microbrewery is defined as a brewery that produces up to 300,000 litres of beer annually, replacing the current maximum volume of 30,000 litres;
Amend Subparagraph 50 (1) zzd of Excise Regulation 1925 to remove the maximum of $10,000 excise refund that can be claimed in a financial year.

 

[keifer33]

A high at the start of the day dreaming about starting up my own brewery...only to be dragged back down at the end of the day. O well time for a beer!

 

[razz]

A high at the start of the day dreaming about starting up my own brewery...only to be dragged back down at the end of the day. O well time for a beer!

And one with out excise to boot keifer33!
Cheers :beerbang:

 

[keifer33]

And one with out excise to boot keifer33!
Cheers :beerbang:

Haha good call, well make that a few more beers.

 

[Shed101]

I wonder how many of those who voted against were:

1. shareholders in Fosters / Lion Nathan
2. scared shitless to vote for anything that had an alcohol conotation
3. voting against just because it was a Green's bill and they wouldn't want to be seen supporting them
4. just utter wankers

Politics ... rarely is it about anything more than *p*olitics.

 

[felten]

The macro brewer lobby group is probably a little better funded than the micro brewer lobby group. if there even is one?

 

[Spork]

I wonder how many of those who voted against were:

1. shareholders in Fosters / Lion Nathan
2. scared shitless to vote for anything that had an alcohol conotation
3. voting against just because it was a Green's bill and they wouldn't want to be seen supporting them
4. just utter wankers

Politics ... rarely is it about anything more than *p*olitics.

E. All of the above...

 

[marksfish]

Is there a way to find out who voted for it and who voted against it?

if the numbers quoted are correct most of the nay votes were labor- lib/nat.

 

[MarkBastard]

I vote for them, who else is there. the laborals have done their dash. They have both sold our country to corporations and individuals (fox studios prime real estate V's olympic site former toxic waste dump). We pay taxes to have a public service and infrastructure.
The way I see it The Greens haven't had a chance to stuff the joint yet. So I am willing to give them a fair go. The Laborals are just garbage. :icon_vomit:

Yeah I voted for the Greens also.

It's a shame the Greens have wowser policies now too though, like the pre-commitment gambling laws, and plain packaging cigarettes. I'm actually surprised they were for craft beer reform, I'd have thought they'd be pushing for plain labelling on beer if anything.

Guess I'll be voting for them again on balance. Can't see myself voting for the Libs or Labor ever again in my life, they have lost me.

 

[hsb]

With you on all of the above.
The debate today will be political grandstanding on xenophobic-tap-in boat policies, not ensuring a bright future for craft brewing
All of the major political debate is 'wowser', so can't blame the Greens too much for jumping overboard into the water now and then, I hear it works wonders.

 

[DU99]

we all should lobby(hound) our local federal member..but when half the house is not there to vote what can you do