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Fasinating PostModern...

I'm really interested in this, as I'll be selling grains soon & I haven't been able to get any definative guidance on storage/shelf life of cracked grains. I was looking at maybe vacuum sealing the cracked grains to get a decent shelf life, but not sure if this has merit?

cheers Ross
 
I recall reading a brewers magazine article many years ago about a chap who was making a wit. In the article he mentioned how he would place the CO2 line from his system in the bottom of his storage bin and give it a short burst to flush out the air then put on the air tight lid. Hope this helps. :D
 
I'm really interested in this, as I'll be selling grains soon

Hi Ross,

Any idea when, what types and prices??

Cheers,
Jase

Jase,

Will be stocking pretty well every grain I can source - prices very competetive - will post a retail thread when I have something definate - hopefully within next 2 months.

cheers Ross
 
Fasinating PostModern...

I'm really interested in this, as I'll be selling grains soon & I haven't been able to get any definative guidance on storage/shelf life of cracked grains. I was looking at maybe vacuum sealing the cracked grains to get a decent shelf life, but not sure if this has merit?

cheers Ross

I think dryness is pretty important. Moisture would probably start the mould growing on cracked grain, as the starches are exposed. Vacuum sealing would not be a bad idea, if it doesn't add much to your cost. Generally, I get my season's worth of grain in one hit (to save LHBS who doesn't have a mill from having to crack an order every time I feel like brewing) and I've been doing this for several years. I store them in the aforementioned tub in a dark, cool concrete cupboard and have never had a mould on them. Might be different in Brissy?

Anyway, if you look at enough US grain wholesale sites (I really wish I could find it again... it may have been linked off probrewer or it may have come up in a google, I really can't recall) you should come across it also. If I find it, I'll post back here.

Cheers,
PoMo.
 
PoMo is spot on - remember Powells and the moisture problems with their grains?
I would not be putting grains in the freezer unless you have definitive proof that the enzymes aren't adversely affected by the temp reduction. The Master Brewers Association of the Americas has a recent article on Freeze Drying of Barley for Germination Maintenance...here...
Now, whilst the article suggests that cryogenic freezing will work on "orthodox" seeds, including Barley, for 100 years or longer, depending on species, it doesn't specifically include malted barley grains. I suspect the article is aimed at the audience of malting grain growers as opposed to we users of malted grains...I've got some gear here in the Farrer Ridge Brewery, but a cryogenic freezer ain't one of the items! :blink:
I'm currently using Bairds malts from their 2003 crop and the brews are fine to taste and efficiency is never below 75%. I keep my grains stored in the airtight white Bunnings pails, in a cool dry space to keep room temp humidity fluctuations at bay. I couldn't guarantee the same results for brewers in the tropics, however.

Back in 2002, Steve Bader wrote in the BYO Magazine:
Malted barley should be protected from moisture and stored at temperatures between 50 and 70 F. Any quantity of malted barley, whether it's a 50-pound sack of two-row or a one-pound bag of crystal, should be stored in containers that keep the grains airtight and dry. And the container should be able to keep bugs out; I once had a customer bring in an opened 50-pound bag of pale malt that was about half full. He had stored it for six months out in his garage, and when we opened the bag, it was swarming with tiny flies. I grabbed the bag and ran for the door, to avoid contaminating the rest of the grain in my store.

Plastic bags you can seal (like a Ziploc) or rigid plastic 2- to 3-gallon containers with a sealing lid (like a trash can) are ideal for long-term storage. Uncrushed grain will store for a year in these conditions, and crushed grains will be good for two to three months. Big bags of grain usually come with a plastic lining inside. You can keep your grain in these or, to be extra careful, you can transfer the grain to airtight trash cans. This is recommended if you think you might have mice in your storage area.

Malt syrup and dry malt extract
Dry malt extract should be stored just like grains. As long as the DME is dry and sealed from oxygen, you can buy in bulk, and use it for up to about 1 year. This assumes you keep it away from sunlight and maintain the temperature between 50 and 70 F.

Liquid malt syrup is easy to store as long as it is in the original can. This is an ideal container that keeps the syrup safe from light and oxygen, and the malt is good for about two years before it starts to degrade. The manufacturer has normally also heated the syrup to pasteurize it before shipping, so it is void of bacteria, molds and yeast. Most cans have an expiration date that helps you know when it is getting old. The same temperature range (50 to 70 F) applies.

Liquid malt syrup that has been opened, or is sold in bulk plastic containers, has a much shorter shelf life. While buying malt syrup in this form is normally less expensive, it must be used in less than 3 months, or the syrup will degrade or even grow mold. If you have malt syrup in this form, the best way to store it is in the fridge. Pick the smallest possible container to eliminate airspace and avoid oxidation. While the extremely high sugar content inhibits yeast activity and molding, over a three- to four-month time period the syrup will lose its freshness.

I sell bulk malt syrup in my store, where we pour the syrup from the drum into plastic buckets. We use nitrogen to push the syrup out of the drum to prevent oxidation of the malt inside the drum, but once the syrup is in the plastic bucket it has about a three-month shelf life before it needs to be used. If you buy bulk syrup, store it in a cool location, and use in less that six weeks. If you brew on an irregular basis, I would definitely suggest buying malt syrup in the cans packed and sealed by the manufacturer.
Cheers,
TL
 
Just spoke to Gerard of Northern Brewing whom dropped off an order for me - Sensational service thanks Gerard.

And asked him this very question and he recommends just resealing the bag and you wont have a problem.

And as such I shall stop stressing.

Cheers all.

Also no affiliation with ND Brewing just giving him a wrap.
 
*BUMP* :D

Seeing as i have just agreed to buy a few sacks of grain i went searching for ways of storing it. In particular, what size container do i need to store one full 25kg bag in?

I noticed that my local Cheap as Chips have clear plastic containers with lids ranging from 15L up to 80L at the moment so was eyeing them off.

ANy thoughts? I was thinking 55L would be fine for one 25kg bag?

Those who do this can you tell me what sizes you use?

Cheers
DrSmurto
 
*BUMP* :D

Seeing as i have just agreed to buy a few sacks of grain i went searching for ways of storing it. In particular, what size container do i need to store one full 25kg bag in?

I noticed that my local Cheap as Chips have clear plastic containers with lids ranging from 15L up to 80L at the moment so was eyeing them off.

ANy thoughts? I was thinking 55L would be fine for one 25kg bag?

Those who do this can you tell me what sizes you use?

Cheers
DrSmurto

DrSmurto. The 48L ones hold a sack perfectly, it's what we use in our store. Approx $11 each from Super Cheap Auto.

cheers ross
 
DrSmurto. The 48L ones hold a sack perfectly, it's what we use in our store. Approx $11 each from Super Cheap Auto.

cheers ross


Thanks Ross - i was looking at the 40L thinking they were too small, then the 55L (same size as mash tun) thinking it would be close and then the 80L thinking i would have room to spare. The 150L seemed a little excessive. :p

55L with wheels are $15.
 
Thanks Ross - i was looking at the 40L thinking they were too small, then the 55L (same size as mash tun) thinking it would be close and then the 80L thinking i would have room to spare. The 150L seemed a little excessive. :p

55L with wheels are $15.

The Super Cheap Auto ones (48L) have wheels as well - Bunnings stock as well i believe.

cheers Ross
 
I use my old fermenters as grain storage bins. Another reason not to use an airlock.

cheers

Darren
 
I use the 48L ones too.

I just made this to bang on the front. I'm planning on making it look better and doing a variety of grains when I have more time. Anybody else have similar?

bairdsmarisotter.jpg
 

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