Goodbye Bronwyn

[Black Devil Dog]

will fix it.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

If your white and Christian, your OK.

How many white Christians are there, I think they would be harder to spot than an illegal.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

They are a minority. But they are in power.

 

[seamad]

They are a minority. But they are in power.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2015/08/29/prime-minister-tony-abbott-and-the-christian-right/14407704002308

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2015/08/29/prime-minister-tony-abbott-and-the-christian-right/14407704002308

Among the non-Catholics is the arch right-winger Eric Abetz, aligned with the Christian Reformed Churches of Australia, who use the mission statement “Pray, multiply, train and align”, and Scott Morrison, aligned with the Pentecostal Assemblies of God

Bernardi is the closest analogue in Australia to the Tea Party of the United States. Indeed, he has consciously imported their techniques, including the establishment of the Conservative Leadership Foundation to sponsor young religious right-wingers, and the Conservative Action Network, which he has characterised as “a Facebook for conservatives”

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Jobs- highest unemployment in 13 years
Growth- lowest wages growth in 40 years

Jobs, what was the highest unemployment before that, oh yes, the Keating government, around 9% Little Johnny got it down to around 4.5% Rudd took it back up again to around 6%, Abbotts only been in the job a couple of years so give him a chance and he will get it down unless ALP block Chafta.

Lowest wage growth in 40 years, all the more reason to work for yourself and give yourself a decent rise each year.
Only last week an Irish immigrant earned himself an $8 MILLION pay rise, how, by hard ******* work.

 

[mje1980]

Awesome, that 1 hour a week job means statistically I'm employed! Can't wait to spend that whole $15

 

[mje1980]

Jobs, what was the highest unemployment before that, oh yes, the Keating government, around 9% Little Johnny got it down to around 4.5% Rudd took it back up again to around 6%, Abbotts only been in the job a couple of years so give him a chance and he will get it down unless ALP block Chafta.

Lowest wage growth in 40 years, all the more reason to work for yourself and give yourself a decent rise each year.
Only last week an Irish immigrant earned himself an $8 MILLION pay rise, how, by hard ******* work.

You know, some people work ******* hard for other people. They're no less a hard worker just because they're not the boss. Or is the be all and end all working for yourself?

 

[CoopsOz]

I found this amusing. The right are constantly lambasted for their border policies but it seems they are both as bad as each other.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

I found this amusing. The right are constantly lambasted for their border policies but it seems they are both as bad as each other.

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1440891487.831011.jpg

This is true

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Jobs, what was the highest unemployment before that, oh yes, the Keating government, around 9% Little Johnny got it down to around 4.5% Rudd took it back up again to around 6%, Abbotts only been in the job a couple of years so give him a chance and he will get it down unless ALP block Chafta.

Lowest wage growth in 40 years, all the more reason to work for yourself and give yourself a decent rise each year.
Only last week an Irish immigrant earned himself an $8 MILLION pay rise, how, by hard ******* work.

Hang on

Isnt the Chafta about allowing in Chinese workers....How does that lower our un-employment rate ?

 

[wide eyed and legless]

You know, some people work ******* hard for other people. They're no less a hard worker just because they're not the boss. Or is the be all and end all working for yourself?

The thing is if you are working ******* hard for some one else, and doing a good job ask for a pay rise, don't wait to get offered one because it will not happen, if you want to carry on working for someone else you have to make yourself seem indispensable and ASK for something extra. That,s what Alan Joyce did but on a bigger scale obviously.
Or you can, as a lot of people do, think, well this is as good as it gets. You get out what you are prepared to put in.

 

[Rod]

So it was not racism when one of the protesters burned the Australian flag

disgraceful

:angry:

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Hang on

Isnt the Chafta about allowing in Chinese workers....How does that lower our un-employment rate ?

If you want to believe what the unions are saying, even the ALP was happy with the agreement until the unions gave instructions to the ALP to block it, and I doubt whether little Billy would be that stupid.
This is a scare tactic drawn up by the unions, against funnily enough its own members and anyone stupid enough to believe them.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

But you havent answered the question

So are you saying that the Chafta wont be bringing in overseas workers ?

And if they are, how does that lower our unemployment rate ?

 

[manticle]

The thing is if you are working ******* hard for some one else, and doing a good job ask for a pay rise, don't wait to get offered one because it will not happen, if you want to carry on working for someone else you have to make yourself seem indispensable and ASK for something extra. That,s what Alan Joyce did but on a bigger scale obviously.
Or you can, as a lot of people do, think, well this is as good as it gets. You get out what you are prepared to put in.

The problem with your utopian ideal is that it requires someone (company, entity, person) at the top and therefore others beneath. You simply can't have every individual working for themselves, earning 8 million dollars a year and **** everyone else.
Work hard or not, there's nothing remotely sustainable if your ideas are extended beyond one person running a small business.

 

[goomboogo]

Jobs, what was the highest unemployment before that, oh yes, the Keating government, around 9% Little Johnny got it down to around 4.5% Rudd took it back up again to around 6%.

What did the Keating government specifically do to contribute to the 9% unemployment figure? What did the Howard government specifically do to contribute to the 4.5% unemployment figure? What did the Rudd government specifically do to contribute to the 6% unemployment figure?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Looks like minister Dutton is a head in the sand type of guy

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/08/30/dutton-s-office--ignored--fortitude-briefing.html

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

What did the Keating government specifically do to contribute to the 9% unemployment figure? What did the Howard government specifically do to contribute to the 4.5% unemployment figure? What did the Rudd government specifically do to contribute to the 6% unemployment figure?

Well when Keating was in we where in the middle of a recession.....

Howard didnt do a great deal ( and its natural for unemployment to go down after a recession ) but offer middle class welfare as a vote buying ploy.

Yes. Sometimes it is a race to the bottom with politics, to the detriment of the citizens and the country

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Of course, when you work for yourself you need others to make the money for you, and my answer was to seamad,don't complain about wages if you are not prepared to do anything about it it is not up to the government to make wage deals on a wage earners behalf.
It is because we are all different we have this discussion, there are those who will sit back and accept the working prospects and wages as they are and there are those who will want something better, luckily they are a minority and the others are in surplus who work for the minority or end up on the dole.

goomboogo, you could ask the same about Abbott what has he done that contributes to the unemployment figure.