First Gold

[Ross]

Anyone seen Badgers 1st Gold in Brizzy - I'd love to get a bottle...

cheers Ross

 

[mje1980]

Bloody great topic. I have just got some first gold, thanks ross. And i love adnams suffolk bitter. It's not the one you guys are talking about, but its the only one i can get. I love it, and i will be soon doing an all first gold bitter. After the above comments, i cant wait!. I have some premium bitter ale yeast i might match it with.

 

[KoNG]

nope it's just camperdown cellars and they definitely have the first gold. guess you might not know about it being north of the border h34r: - a decent bottlo with mainly wine emphasis but a good range of beer including quite a few english ales. they also have sinha stout which is definitely worth your time drinking. and murrays beers. parramatta rd just two blocks west of sydney uni on the right.

ahh yep... my mistake, i had it confused with Northmead cellars (which is NORTH of the border )
i've got a mate who frequents that Uni you mention. I'll get him on the task.!

Bloody great topic. I have just got some first gold, thanks ross. And i love adnams suffolk bitter. It's not the one you guys are talking about, but its the only one i can get. I love it, and i will be soon doing an all first gold bitter. After the above comments, i cant wait!. I have some premium bitter ale yeast i might match it with.

I'm also tossing up the idea of a 100% first gold brew to trial it mje.. although i must say i'm a little put off that idea after trialling a 100% Bramling Cross Bitter.. wasnt so good.

ps. i like your fishy avatar

 

[T.D.]

ahh yep... my mistake, i had it confused with Northmead cellars (which is NORTH of the border )
i've got a mate who frequents that Uni you mention. I'll get him on the task.!

I hope you make it worth your mate's while...

Maybe a couple of bottles thrown in for his trouble??? :beerbang:

 

[KoNG]

If said 'mate' grabs 2 bottles.. this guy will pay for both.

 

[Stuster]

after trialling a 100% Bramling Cross Bitter.. wasnt so good.

You didn't just the BC? Was thinking about the same myself. What other hops would be good with it? Better for bittering? Flavour? Aroma? :unsure:

Edit: Cancel that. Read the other thread.

 

[mje1980]

ps. i like your fishy avatar

Thanks mate, it's "home brewed"!! haha

 

[T.D.]

Picked up a bottle of the Badger First Gold from Camperdown Cellars yesterday. It was the last one so looks like I was lucky! :beerbang:

The beer was awesome! If that's First Gold, then I like it! A lot!

Definitely grab yourself a bottle if you see it. Along with Ruddles, this is up there with the best commercial English bitters I have tasted.

Might have to try that First Gold for myself in the near future!

 

[KoNG]

If said 'mate' grabs 2 bottles.. this guy will pay for both.

Picked up a bottle of the Badger First Gold from Camperdown Cellars yesterday. It was the last one so looks like I was lucky! :beerbang:

Funnily enough i got to taste 'half' a bottle last night.
a very balanced beer, with neither the hops nor malt dominant.
But with the travel, who knows we may be missing a little hop character by the time it gets here.

Great beer.. and i'm glad i have some first gold now.! B)

 

[bconnery]

ahh yep... my mistake, i had it confused with Northmead cellars (which is NORTH of the border )
i've got a mate who frequents that Uni you mention. I'll get him on the task.!



I'm also tossing up the idea of a 100% first gold brew to trial it mje.. although i must say i'm a little put off that idea after trialling a 100% Bramling Cross Bitter.. wasnt so good.

ps. i like your fishy avatar

100% First Gold will work fine. I've tasted commercial examples, such as St Peters Suffolk Gold and they were very nice.

If you don't want to go that way it works very well with Progress. Bitter with a combination and flavour with First Gold.

That's in my experience anyway. I really like this hop!

 

[bconnery]

Anyone seen Badgers 1st Gold in Brizzy - I'd love to get a bottle...

cheers Ross

Ross,

The Grape up here used to have it, or at least one of the Badger's range, but they have recently been taken over by Vintage Cellars so I would guess their beer range is about to be reduced.

You could try Dan Murphy's or 1st choice who both have a good range...

 

[winkle]

Ross,
not at the 1 st choice (@ Toowong anyway). I have seen it around in Brisbane though - possibly at Best Cellars at Kelvin Grove? When I go there I usually check out the new additions but then buy a La Chouffe anyway.

 

[KoNG]

OK peoples,
i plan to brew on the weekend with the First Gold. This recipe is a few slight changes to something i've been brewing for a while and enjoying. I havent decided on the yeast yet, but will probably just go with S04 or Nottingham.
Any thoughts and/or comments would be appreciated....
:beer:



Hackney
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 17/02/2007
Style: Special/Best/Premium Bitter Brewer: Dowdy
Batch Size: 27.00 L Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 31.60 L Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.0 % Equipment: KoNG's Brury
Actual Efficiency: 0.0
Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
4500.00 gm Pale Malt, Golden Promise (Thomas Fawcett) (5.9 EBC) Grain 87.0 %
250.00 gm Crystal, Dark (Joe White) (216.7 EBC) Grain 4.8 %
200.00 gm Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 3.9 %
100.00 gm Melanoiden Malt (39.4 EBC) Grain 1.9 %
100.00 gm Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (3.5 EBC) Grain 1.9 %
20.00 gm Chocolate Malt (Joe White) (750.6 EBC) Grain 0.4 %
14.00 gm Northdown [8.50%] (60 min) Hops 13.2 IBU
14.00 gm First Gold [7.50%] (60 min) Hops 11.6 IBU
20.00 gm First Gold [7.50%] (20 min) Hops 5.6 IBU
20.00 gm First Gold [7.50%] (5 min) Hops 2.8 IBU
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1.09 gm Salt (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
2.00 gm Epsom Salt (MgSO4) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
4.00 gm Baking Soda (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
8.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.042 SG (1.040-1.048 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.000 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.011 SG (1.008-1.012 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.000 SG
Estimated Color: 23.1 EBC (9.9-31.5 EBC) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 33.2 IBU (25.0-40.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 1.8 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 4.0 % (3.8-4.6 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 0.0 %

 

[Aussie Claret]

Kong,
My only comments and I'm by no means the professional Ag'er, but that seems to be a lot of crystal, I'd be tempted to use 250g max.

AC

 

[KoNG]

AC...Yeh agreed it's more than i usually use, although its only 8.5%.
My usual recipe only calls for around 6.5%, but then i'm normally only bittering to 0.7 BU:GU whereas this recipe is up at 0.8.
I may even up the 60 minute addition of First Gold just to balance it out a little more.
All that said, plenty of brewers claim great results with 10-11% crystal in their bitters.

 

[mje1980]

Long time between my last post on this topic, but, i am going to do another first gold bitter soon. The last one was fantastic. How did everyone else's go???

 

[KoNG]

MJE, mine turned out really well B)
i really like first gold... so much so i bought more for another few hackney bitters. i'll make one for my wedding.
another is in the keg now and drinking well. FG will be my staple 'hackney' hop now.
dont have the recipe but i didnt change much hop wise... just upped the IBU a little.
grain grist is a bit different, dropped the wheat, choc and melanoiden.
and used windsor, hence some of the above changes.

you can see below that the Hackney bitter in drinking now...
[OT] but main reason for photo is to show you the board racks i just finished putting up. Still got one or 2 more desired boards to add to the line up..! :lol:

 

[Pumpy]

I made Roscos First Gold Bitter a low alchohol beer 3% but full of flavour and body great when you have some work to do or people driving .

Pumpy

 

[mje1980]

Dont have the recipe handy do you pumpy?? im always hearing good things about ross' beer!

 

[troydo]

ross has a few of his recipes on the craft brewer site:
http://www.craftbrewer.com.au/brewing-info.asp and some in the recipe database...