Filtering Primed Kegs Pointless?

[afromaiko]

I'm thinking about getting a beer filter but I'm priming my kegs with dex and carbonating naturally. Logically this would seem to me like defeating the purpose of filtering. However I'm wondering if anyone here has experience doing this and can tell me whether the beer would still end up coming out much clearer than if I hadn't filtered?

Afromaiko

 

[Sammus]

I'm not sure what mean by naturally carbonating would defeat the purpose of filtering? Though I have heard that people filter then naturally carb in bottles, the filtering (if you are talking about the 1 micron absolute filter than craftbrewer sells) leaves enough yeast to carbonate, and results in a much smaller layer of yeast at the bottom of the bottle - I'm guessing it improves the clarity somewhat too (the whole purpose of filtering in the first place...) or noone would do it.

 

[poida]

I don't think it would be worth it if you are still going to naturally carb your kegs. I filter but I do it because I don't have the patience to wait for the beer to clear by itself in the keg, which is something you don't seem to have an problem with. If you filtered and then primed your keg with dex then I suspect the beer isn't really going to be any clearer once the yeast settles out than if you didn't filter, though I could be wrong.

If your beer is not coming clear at the moment it could be attributed to something else like chill haze, in which case you could try using some polyclar which you can get through craftbrewer.

 

[Ross]

Filtering before you naturally carbonate will certainly cut down on the layer of yeast in the bottom of your keg, but if you want clear beer, filter after you've carbonated. That way you'll have a naturally carbonated beer, but a crystal clear one & no sediment to stir up.

Cheers Ross

 

[Sammus]

I was thinking if you carbed then filtered you loose a lot of carbonation? so would you have to way over carb to account for it?

 

[Ross]

I was thinking if you carbed then filtered you loose a lot of carbonation? so would you have to way over carb to account for it?

You would need to filter under pressure. Have your recieving keg at 100kpa & your dispesing one at 150kpa.

cheers ross

 

[Screwtop]

Am with Ross on this, there have been a few threads on this subject, just put the full keg up on a bench with the receiving keg on the floor, gas the receiving keg (empty) to about 10Kpa less than the full keg, connect beer to filter in, filter out to beer in and then after the beer is moving, gas to gas. Once the pressure equalises gravity will take care of the transfer. That's my take on it, but do yourself a search, there's plenty of info on the site.

Maybe use the google search it's better: subject of search site:www.aussiehomebrewer.com in google.

 

[cloudy]

I'm thinking about getting a beer filter but I'm priming my kegs with dex and carbonating naturally. Logically this would seem to me like defeating the purpose of filtering. However I'm wondering if anyone here has experience doing this and can tell me whether the beer would still end up coming out much clearer than if I hadn't filtered?

Afromaiko

Hey Afro,

i take it that your not happy with the way your beer is coming out of the keg? is this why you are looking at a filter?. the only reason i am asking is i am setting up my kegs at the moment and am carbing the first one with dex. i have a friend who does this also and seems to be happy with the way the beer comes out.

just curious,

:beer:

Cloudy.

 

[Franko]

whats the point of using dextrose to carb a keg......
Just filter into the keg add co2 and enjoy

 

[cloudy]

whats the point of using dextrose to carb a keg......
Just filter into the keg add co2 and enjoy

Hey Franko.

Why not?

 

[Screwtop]

Have just this week taken delivery of the bits necessary for carbonation using Speise. For this method around 2L of wort is collected from the kettle immediately after the boil (hot, after the boil into a food grade container, like no chilling) is stored to be used later for natural carbonation. After fermentation, simply mix the fermented wort with the Speise in a vessel and then bottle, keg or both. For the keg, an adjustable pressure relief valve set to 110Kpa is connected to the gas post ensuring that natural carbonation does not reach a pressure above 110Kpa. Using this method, nothing other than the ingredients used to create the beer, are used to produce the beer - kegged or bottled. External Co2 is necessary only only for delivery of product from a keg.

Screwy

 

[roger mellie]

whats the point of using dextrose to carb a keg......
Just filter into the keg add co2 and enjoy

Its true that both arrive at the same end point.

But for mine - the naturally carbed method produces a tighter bead - mousse as they would call it if it were champagne.

I only do this with my low carbed beers - I reckon its worth it.

RM

 

[afromaiko]

The reason I wanted to naturally carbonate is that at the moment I have a 9kg cylinder and reg at my disposal, but this will be returned to its rightful owner shortly and since I only go through about 1 keg a month I don't see much value in buying a MyKegsOnLegs or renting a cylinder.

I was planning to naturally carb and then dispensing using either Soda Stream cylinders or perhaps the new Ozito CO2 system that uses the paintball 540gms/20oz cylinders. Those Ozito/paintball ones should be able to dispense half a dozen kegs and theoretically they should be able to force carb and dispense a couple of kegs too but that would remain to be seen.

I got thinking about filtering my lagers because some people had posted encouraging results here using just gravity to transfer with rather than forcing it through with CO2.