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Ever had a beer you thought was infected but turned out great?

Discussion in 'General Brewing Techniques' started by Doctormcbrewdle, 13/2/18.

 

  1. t2000kw

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    Posted 8/4/18
    Hope it's not an infection and that the flavor mellows with time.

    I made a pumpkin beer a few years ago and it's never going to mellow. I consider it a failed experiment. A friend liked it enough to take some off my hands but the rest is going down the drain as soon as I need to use the keg. And the keg will probably need to be taken apart and the o-rings soaked or replaced, too.

    If it turns out it is an infection, good cleaning and sanitation of everything on the cold side (post-boil) that touches the wort usually prevents it from happening again. That and very quickly cooling the wort to pitching temperature so that exposure to air is minimized. I probably should do my cooling inside the house once flameout has occurred.

    There is actually a test kit I saw online somewhere to test whether your beer is infected or not. This is the product (just looked and found it) but the supplier is in the US:

    https://www.morebeer.com/products/fastorange-ready-tubes-2-5ml-swabs.html

    But other than maybe telling you that's what happened, it doesn't do anything to fix things for you. I think the test kit is almost pointless unless you're trying to troubleshoot where an infection came from (like the spigot on a bottling bucket, bottle filler, etc.) or just want to confirm a beer is infected.

    If it still looks fine to the eyes in a few months with no ropy looking bacteria slime in the beer, you probably are right that you just have a bad combination of ingredients. I had one batch that I ordered what I thought were the same ingredients that was in a kit from a homebrewing supplier, but it turned out that in their kits they must have used a different brand of dried malt extract. It was dark extract, same as called for in the recipe, but it did not turn out anywhere near the same taste as the kit. No infection was present, just one of those things. They don't label their recipe nor their dried extract as to which brand it was. I thought I was saving a few dollars by making up my own kit but it turned out to be a beer that wasn't all that great. Drinkable, but not refreshing. More for medicinal purposes, I guess, after a bad day at work. :) The place makes some great extract with grains kits, though. I've moved on to all grain and because of time and storage considerations am going back to extract with grains again. I hope to brew again this year after a break of a few years since my last brew, probably this spring (your autumn).
     
  2. Doctormcbrewdle

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    Posted 12/4/18
    Tasting @ 11 days in bottle, wacky taste mellowing but still there. It's the galaxy. Just so damn strong that stuff and I'm not a real fan to begin with so just not my cup of tea. So much so it tastes like an almost ruined batch (laughs)

    It's a pitty I still have almost half a kg left over.. might have to give it away to someone who does like it
     
  3. Lobby Lobster

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    Posted 14/4/18
    To answer the question, Yes.
    I’m drinking an extract brew, a kolsch with WLP029 that I brewed three times previously.
    This time I was convinced that it was infected- didn’t taste right on bottling day or over the first month.
    I was close to tipping it to free up some bottles. However after 2 months it’s as good as I remember it. Kind of weird and certainly unexpected. But now it’s so good I will do it again.
    I have had a couple of infected beers before and the key sign was gushing when you pop the lid. The old “it’s a boy” is not a good sign.
    When I was a young brewer and hadn’t been to Belgium I thought lots of things were wrong because they didn’t taste like the commercial beers I was used to. In Bruges I realized, wow that tastes like that ale I did that time- I tipped it because it didn’t taste like Cascade.
     
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  4. Doctormcbrewdle

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    Posted 14/4/18
    Update. Gave one to a mate I brew alot of pales for. He loves it. Go figure.. so just being hard on myself and don't like the hop source. It did have quite alot of diacetly to begin with though abd is getting better
     
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    Update. It's bloody amazing now! Just hit 2 weeks in the bottle. Time is all it's needed. I'm finding that the M44 yeast seems to produce alot of what seems to be diacetly and is taking at least two weeks to clean up. I can even appreciate the Galaxy now! And Amarillo has popped too. Like a flower in spring after the cold winter has passed

    Cheers all!
     

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