Creationist vs Scientist Live Debate

[Dave70]

BTW, How do creationists explain the dinosaurs? Whats their answer on who put them there and why? Just god playing around when he was a little boy before making us????

The creationist explanation is the bones were placed there by god as a test of faith. They will tell you this with a straight face.

 

[manticle]

Plus dinosaurs are in the bible. Leviathan and something or other.

Big whale that ate Jonas maybe. Tryanosauarus Rex that gave birth to Solomon.

OK I made that last one up.

 

[Airgead]

The up side is, the more we learn, the less can be attributed to a God.

They call this one the "god of the gaps" argument.

Oh... yeah.. so evolution is true.. but who started it huh? Oh... it started in a puddle through come fairly common chemical reactions... well who put the chemicals there huh?... and so on until you get to the "well who caused the big bang then?" discussion.

 

[manticle]

The answer is 'some magical guy who can do everything'. The question is then 'How do you know about that guy?'.

Answer: 'I just know. You'd know too if you knew'.

Makes sense.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

The answer is 42

 

[OzPaleAle]

"well who caused the big bang then?" discussion.

Probably our universe is just a grain of malt in a sack full of many universes, big bang was just John Palmer putting us through the Mill.

 

[Dave70]

Having said all that - every active church goer I know, is nice and I'm glad I live in a country where the laws/morals are based on the Christian bible.

On balance, its predominantly atheist countries who enjoy a better standard of living. This contrasts sharply with the backward brutal, cultural quagmires still under the theocratic jackboot.

This tends to nullify the persistent bleating of religious types that society would collapse into a murderous orgy without the fickle hand of god and his impossible to follow prohibitions.

 

[Airgead]

On balance, its predominantly atheist countries who enjoy a better standard of living. This contrasts sharply with the backward brutal, cultural quagmires still under the theocratic jackboot.

Yep.. that pretty much describes the US.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Hey Truman Erich Von Daniken was debunked when he wrote a book about time travel, some one asked him why couldn't it have been someone coming from the future and mucking around.
And Bill Bailey reckons they were Scots who invented time travel.

 

[manticle]

That'll be me...................up the road.

 

[zappa]

God did exist. Here's proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ilRFkvgbM&feature=youtube_gdata_player '>

 

[Bridges]

The answer is 42

And the question is?
Hope you know where your towel is.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Its in my satchel with some salted peanuts and a spare babel fish

 

[Goose]

The answer lies in the "Anthropic Principle".

Quite simple really. We're exist in a universe that has an infinitesimally small chance of existence. Yet here we are to observe it because we are also part of that existence, despite the extreme improbability of such.

It's sheer luck that we should celebrate with beer....

Cheers.

 

[sponge]

Quite simple really. We're exist in a universe that has an infinitesimally small chance of existence. Yet here we are to observe it because we are also part of that existence, despite the extreme improbability of such.

Observe, and destroy... one planet at a time.

 

[Goose]

Observe, and destroy... one planet at a time.

Indeed. Life becomes untenable on earth in 2-3 billion years, when the Sun runs out of fuel and goes Nova. We better get some brews in before then I reckon....

Seems to be getting a bit warmer here lately...

 

[tavas]

How do creationists explain the dinosaurs?

How do people claim to know how to speak Klingon? And get PhD's on it? It's an idea in someone's mind, yet others have taken it and created a whole world.

Not unlike religion actually.

Goebbels: "It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise."

 

[tavas]

Indeed. Life becomes untenable on earth in 2-3 billion years, when the Sun runs out of fuel and goes Nova. We better get some brews in before then I reckon....

Seems to be getting a bit warmer here lately...

Better switch to ale making

 

[Goose]

Clarke's Third Law:

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

 

[Airgead]

when the Sun runs out of fuel and goes Nova.

Nahhh... no nova. The sun is G type main sequence. You don't get novas until you up up in the blue giant range.

In 3-4 billion years or so the sun will stop burning hydrogen at its core. The core will shrink to a point where it begins burning helium. At that point the sun will drop off the main sequence and become a red giant. Later it will shed its outer layers as a spectacular planetary nebula before the helium runs out and the core is not big enough to start burning carbon. It ends up as a white (then black) dwarf.

You don't go nova unless the core is heavy enough to start burning carbon to silicone then silicone into iron. Around 20 solar masses is the limit if I remember correctly.

Science is wonderful.

Cheers
Dave