Co2 Gas Bottles

[rhino171]

I went to my local HBS the other day to get my first gas bottle and lease agreement, as I am about to start kegging.

I nearly fell over when the guy told me the yearly lease agreement was $129.50.

Three weeks ago it was 17.95. Thats some price rise huh!

I didn't get it. Told them to stick it. It's not the HBS's fault. It was soley the gas supplier increase.

I found it cheaper elsewhere. Both the lease agreement and a fill.

Where do you guys get yours and for how much?

Thanks
Rhino.

 

[Punter]

I bought a "my kegs on legs" bottle approx. 12 months ago.
hav'nt had to refill it yet. :beerbang:
price was only $299 and I own it outright, no yearly fee.

 

[rhino171]

I bought a "my kegs on legs" bottle approx. 12 months ago.
hav'nt had to refill it yet. :beerbang:
price was only $299 and I own it outright, no yearly fee.

That was an option also, but I don't know of anyone who could fill it down here. The major companies will only fill their own bottles, thereby forcing you into lease agreements.

 

[Back Yard Brewer]

That was an option also, but I don't know of anyone who could fill it down here. The major companies will only fill their own bottles, thereby forcing you into lease agreements.

Bastards arent they :angry: But there are always ways around it.

BYB

 

[jeddog]

Same happened to me, :angry:

So went to local tip and was lucky enough to find a large gas bottle with the words "BEERGAS" on the side of it.

Also got a friend who can fill for me free of charge

the bottle has 4 year before needing re-testing

So to the gas company.....you can jam ya gas and bottle. If it wasn't for the price increase i would have been happy to pay,


but your not getting $130 from me, rent a year


jeddog

 

[Hogan]

That was an option also, but I don't know of anyone who could fill it down here. The major companies will only fill their own bottles, thereby forcing you into lease agreements.

Have a look at the 'My Keg-on-Legs' web site - locations -and you will see who the HBS supplier in your area is. Cost of the bottle is $299 and you own it forever, cost of the refill is about $40.00.

Cheers, Hoges.

 

[Wortgames]

Just to point out to any Melbourne newbies, it wasn't really a "price increase".

All of the suppliers tend to charge around $120 a year in cylinder hire, but the local rep for Air Liquide down here was kind enough to strike a deal with various homebrew stores, so that we could hire their last few steel cylinders for a much lower fee.

As the steel cylinders reached their retest date they were decommissioned, and I guess they finally ran out.

I still think $120 is a bit steep for a year's rental, but they didn't just suddenly increase the fee from $ 17 to $120 for no reason.

 

[ntboozer]

Well here in sunny Darwin it is $155 for 1 yr 'rent' + $67.00 for the gas each re-fill (including the first) - not happy my 'backyard' supplier has left the territory.
nt :beer:

 

[lucas]

i'd be interested to see statistics on the number of brewers who tell air liquide where to stick it when their current contracts run out. brewers are a thrifty bunch, I think most would seek out a better deal. it only takes ~2 years rental to almost cover a mykegonlegs bottle, owned forever

 

[frogman]

i'd be interested to see statistics on the number of brewers who tell air liquide where to stick it when their current contracts run out. brewers are a thrifty bunch, I think most would seek out a better deal. it only takes ~2 years rental to almost cover a mykegonlegs bottle, owned forever

Have done just that, except told BOC where they can put their cylinder.

Mykegonlegs 6.8 kg new and full $350.
Refills $45.

Looks better too.
Dosen't detract from brewery bling.

FROGMAN

 

[Back Yard Brewer]

Have a look at the 'My Keg-on-Legs' web site - locations -and you will see who the HBS supplier in your area is. Cost of the bottle is $299 and you own it forever, cost of the refill is about $40.00.

Cheers, Hoges.

As a matter of interest, are mykegsonlegs available to be filled with just Co2. I currently use a blend of
N2 & Co2. (60/40)

Back Yard Brewer

 

[Ross]

As a matter of interest, are mykegsonlegs available to be filled with just Co2. I currently use a blend of
N2 & Co2. (60/40)

Back Yard Brewer

If you looked at their site you'd have your answer
Currently only in Sydney, it would appear.

cheers Ross

 

[razz]

i'd be interested to see statistics on the number of brewers who tell air liquide where to stick it when their current contracts run out. brewers are a thrifty bunch, I think most would seek out a better deal. it only takes ~2 years rental to almost cover a mykegonlegs bottle, owned forever

I for one Lucas will be going the Mykegsonlegs deal or what ever I can find, hopefully someone like G&G will become an agent for them. :angry:

 

[lucas]

I for one Lucas will be going the Mykegsonlegs deal or what ever I can find, hopefully someone like G&G will become an agent for them. :angry:

http://www.mykegonlegs.com.au/filling.html#vic

looks like they already are, listed as doing sales and exchange

that said, I've got 10-11 months left on my current contract

 

[Wortgames]

i'd be interested to see statistics on the number of brewers who tell air liquide where to stick it when their current contracts run out. brewers are a thrifty bunch, I think most would seek out a better deal. it only takes ~2 years rental to almost cover a mykegonlegs bottle, owned forever

Oh no doubt - in fact, I think most of the homebrew shops have wound up their AL contract, so the brewer wouldn't be telling AL where to stick it - they would be telling their HBS where to stick whatever alternative they've come up with. Brewcraft seem to be recommending Supagas, but the pricing still remains about that $140 a year or something.

Don't get me wrong, I really dislike the cylinder rental prices, but the original AL rep deserves a bit of kudos for striking the deal, it would have saved a lot of Melbourne brewers a lot of cash over the last couple of years.

I don't think Air Liquide should come under any specific fire for this contract coming to an end, they were doing us a bit of a favour after all - unless of course you take the view that brewers weren't made aware that the pricing was temporary, and were therefore 'lured' into buying a keg system by artificially low cylinder rental prices.

I couldn't say how many brewers might have that view, but I think most of us on AHB would have been aware of the temporary nature of the arrangement.

 

[rhino171]

Oh no doubt - in fact, I think most of the homebrew shops have wound up their AL contract, so the brewer wouldn't be telling AL where to stick it - they would be telling their HBS where to stick whatever alternative they've come up with. Brewcraft seem to be recommending Supagas, but the pricing still remains about that $140 a year or something.

I told them to stick it.

AL through G&G - $129.50 p.a plus $43.50 a fill on a 9kg bottle.

Went to Supagas - $9 per month paid quarterly ($108 p.a.) plus $35.00 a fill on a 10kg bottle and free delivery.

That'll do for 12 months before buying my own. G&G didn't have a "my keg on legs" arrangement at the time i got mine.

 

[dewbot]

Hey guys i dont think i paid enough attention when i got my bottle..

Im renting it from a BOC supplier paying by the month..

Does that mean i can cancel it whenever i want and just pay for the current month or am I locked in for a year?

I like the idea of kegonlegs!

 

[Ross]

Hey guys i dont think i paid enough attention when i got my bottle..

Im renting it from a BOC supplier paying by the month..

Does that mean i can cancel it whenever i want and just pay for the current month or am I locked in for a year?

I like the idea of kegonlegs!

Yes - Your contract is governed by the frequency of your payments. If you pay yearly & want to change after 6 months, you'll lose the 6 months rental.

cheers Ross

 

[bljpoad]

I told them to stick it.

AL through G&G - $129.50 p.a plus $43.50 a fill on a 9kg bottle.

Went to Supagas - $9 per month paid quarterly ($108 p.a.) plus $35.00 a fill on a 10kg bottle and free delivery.

That'll do for 12 months before buying my own. G&G didn't have a "my keg on legs" arrangement at the time i got mine.

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I have been looking for either a gas cylinder rental or extinguisher mob in Melb for maybe the last week. I emailed Supagas, and the response I got was the rental was $9 per quater, ie $36 per year. Have I been given some bung info here? :huh:
- Berwyck