Clone Brews And Beer Captured - Hop Reduction For Ag

[EK]

Why is it that Clone Brews and Beer Captured reduce the hops for the All Grain option of each recipe but other books do not?

Brewing Classic Styles and the Brew You Own 150 Classic Clone Recipes don't do this.

Can anyone tell me why this is the case. I want to brew some of the AG version of the Clone Brews and Beer Captured recipes and am trying to figure this out.

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EK

 

[glennheinzel]

Perhaps Clone Brews and Beer Captured assume that you'll be doing a concentrated boil (which affects hop utilisation).

 

[Screwtop]

Why is it that Clone Brews and Beer Captured reduce the hops for the All Grain option of each recipe but other books do not?

Brewing Classic Styles and the Brew You Own 150 Classic Clone Recipes don't do this.

Can anyone tell me why this is the case. I want to brew some of the AG version of the Clone Brews and Beer Captured recipes and am trying to figure this out.

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EK

Check boil length !!

Screwy

 

[EK]

The boil length seems to be the same, though reading through the extract version more closely it would seem that Rukh is correct. They are only doing a boil with half the volume. Thanks.

-EK

 

[EK]

I have just realised that I sounded like a bit of a ****** as I have also just realised that screwy may well have been referring to the boil volume, not the boil time.

oops.

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EK

 

[Screwtop]

I have just realised that I sounded like a bit of a ****** as I have also just realised that screwy may well have been referring to the boil volume, not the boil time.

oops.

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EK

No mate you're right. Away travelling atm so unable to check the text, guessed it may be boil time/volume/gravity so just gave the "boil length" prompt as there would be a reason. Wasn't referring to brew length.

Cheers,

Screwy

 

[mje1980]

I think clone brews is very ordinary, a lot of the recipes seem similar. Im not doubting the beers come out very good though. I do like the beer styles ones, like Pale ale ( terry foster etc ). Wouldn't mind the mild one.

 

[HoppingMad]

Only just got these two books, and have compiled a tempting list of AG recipes I'm going to use from both titles this year.

I reckon some of the recipes are similar in these books because commercial beers are made in quite simple/similar ways. Sometimes there are only a couple of variables between say - an Asahi Lager and a Kirin Lager.

One thing I will say is that going through the recipes carefully I have noticed quite a few typos/errors. Some in particular suggest way too much of a particular ingredient in a grain bill (so they've actually got the weight measure wrong, but the number is right etc). There's a few oversights when I went through it that if you were putting a beer together quickly you could stuff it. So use this book carefully and re-check the recipe prior to brewing. I would wager there will be revisions to it in coming years, but I have spotted about 4 errors in some of the recipes that could really affect the outcome of your beer.

Hopper.

 

[EK]

I am looking at making the Hobgoblin clone and am reading carefully over the ingredients. If I were to reduce the hops for All Grain as they suggest, then the IBU's turn out to be about 22 even with the 90 min boil, not the 27 that they suggest, however, if they are used as they are written for the extract recipe then the IBU's are around 27. I just don't get the hop reduction that the book is specifying.

Has anyone else brewed AG clones from either Clone Brews or Beer Captured? What is your experience with the hops?

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EK