Well, for what it's worth, I liked the Speedie days - 17 or 18 fermenters in an AC room cos taxi drivers need lots of piss and need to learn things enthusiastially and within a limited time frame...spot on, Butters, Chappo - guys I couldn't agree with about anything in real life I suspect, but who wanted to brew better beer and did, and offered many useful things for the internet - and then there are those we do not speak of (Bum, Nick JD etc), that I often also found myself in sympathy with in terms of actual brewing commentary, despite their shortness/intolerance/pointed-humour. I found/find Yasmini and Kerr a little vulgar for my tastes. Anyway, that's me out after a few pints of piss that doesn't taste like beer used to or some **** like that.