Bridge Road Anniversity Clone

[Tanga]

So I recently tried the Bridge Road Black Saison 6th anniversary beer, and it was amazing. I was thinking a black IPA grist might be the way to go, and my reading led me to discover the same grist was also used to make the B2, last year's anniversary beer (a black IPA), but also the 4th anniversary aged oak porter. All 3 wonderful beers by all accounts.

The Black Saison review:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11611/72849

The Black IPA:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11611/61706

The Porter:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11611/52153

I'd love to make a black Saison, I find the heavy malt really complements the funk. But this malt bill looks complex. I'm thinking a fair wack of pale choc for the coffee, one of the aromatics (melanoidin) for the biscuit, or perhaps just a fair wack of Munich. I've only done one AG, no real recipe formulation, so any help appreciated.

6.5% ABV

Not sure on the IBUs, but around the mid 30s at a guess. I plan to use Styrian Goldings.

 

[Jace89]

I'll go annoy naked Ned (bridge roads twitter account) and see if he will drop a line for us!

 

[chunckious]

Ask him about Bling while your at it Jase. Fantastic beer!!!

 

[Tim F]

Dunno if it's much help but the mad fermentationist has a recipe for a dark saison here: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2009/...k-cardamom.html

 

[Tanga]

I'll go annoy naked Ned (bridge roads twitter account) and see if he will drop a line for us!

Thanks Jace, even a basic starting point would be good.

Thanks to Tim too, intriguing malt bill. Not keen to go brett yet, but the base might work.

 

[Jace89]

Just got a quick response: "@Radical_Brewer will get back with more help soon, day off today, but plenty of roast barley and choc malt, will find og and fg and get back"

I'll keep ya posted for updates. What a nice guy!

 

[Tanga]

Absolutely! Thanks for that Jace!

 

[Tanga]

Absolutely! Thanks for that Jace!

I put together my best guess at a grain bill. Any hints on the IBUs I should be aiming at? Going to first wort hop with fuggles coz it's what I've got.

 

[Tanga]

Anyone?

Who's tried it? It didn't taste too bitter, but dark beer can be tricky. I've put enough first wort hops in for 24 IBU.

 

[Jace89]

Fairly dark beer by the sounds of it, but I've never had it myself. 28IBU wouldn't be to bad but maybe go with 30-35 but that might make it to hoppy (not a bad thing!). I don't make to many dark beers but that's my 2cents! I'm sure it'll be drinkable either way

 

[Tanga]

Wow, what an awesome guy. He, more or less, gave me the recipe on twitter. OG 1066, Hersbrucker!?! for bittering, 1.5 kg in 1000 L, which is giving me a much lower IBU reading than 24. Even the 700g each of saaz and EKG 2 minutes from the end of the boil isn't adding much.