Beersmith Recipe Costs

[bignath]

Hi all,

any body know how to set up beersmith to work out the costings for hops and other small items? I want to approximate, or accurately track each recipe's costing, but i can't work it out. Grains and things like that - no problem, but i can't get my head around the hop costing.

any help greatly appreciated

bignath

 

[warra48]

You can set the price of hops either in the Hops list, or in your inventory.

When you buy some hops, select them from the Hops list. When the window opens, enter the weight of hops you bought, and also the price per gram. Then click OK, and it will transfer to your inventory.
When you build your recipe, click on Add Hops. When the window opens, tick the box to show only items in stock. Select the hop you want, the weight, boil time etc, and click OK. The hops will transfer into your recipe, and the price will accumulate in the Total Cost box on the recipe page.

You can do the same with other items in exactly the same manner.

 

[Aus_Rider_22]

If you can change the grain prices per kg the hops is the same idea.

I generally put 10 in the value box for 10c per gram of hops. I buy the 90g packs which are around $8-10 each. Gives me a fairly close estimate for value. Obviously it's not exact as the prices of different types vary and you only get 85g out of a pack but it's close enough IMO.

 

[razz]

I think it is cents per 100 grams or something similar.

 

[Aus_Rider_22]

I think it is cents per 100 grams or something similar.

Close but I am sure it's per gram, not per 100.

 

[bignath]

thanks very much!

i had previously searched for answers, and the beersmith forum mentioned CENTIGRAM as opposed to cents per gram, and they were talking about putting in some kind of mathematical formula to work it out....I just got all confused.

the hop window in relation to price ($/cg) didn't seem as straight forward as the grain prices at $/kg.

cheers for the help, i have changed all my prices to 10c

thanks,

bignath

 

[earle]

I recall something on the beersmith site about hops being per centigram (100g) also but the unit label not matching that. It may have been fixed in an upgrade. Anyway, work out a value and then test it by adding hops only to a recipe should confirm which it is.

Edit: beaten

 

[mintsauce]

Dollars per 100 G's is the same as cents per gram guys!

 

[jayse]

You can get beersmith to work out the cost of anything you like quite well, things like labour and excise even, gasses, anything you can possibly imagine. For excise you can easily just enter the actual alc amount in litres and bang done. For those interested you need to set two seperate excise rates in misc ingredients, less then and greater then 48l for which ever packaging your doing, work out the amount of alc in the brew and enter that and done, same as labour, set the hourly rate and you just set it as 1 hour equals 1 litre, 1 gram or 1 cup whatever, simple and kinda cool. Not that most here would need to be doing those costings but kinda cool for those that do.

 

[under]

Cost. I see it as a good investment, and never count. But thats me.

 

[bignath]

Dollars per 100 G's is the same as cents per gram guys!

Yep, i am sure we all know that.....

what got me really wondering is that the initial search i did (actually on the beersmith forum) pulled up a whole lot of posts about CENTIGRAM as opposed to CENTS PER GRAM.


Definition from answers.com

n. (Abbr. cg or cgm.)
A metric unit of mass equal to one hundredth (10 ^-2) of a gram.

i was thinking it would be pointless to be "accounting" for such a miniscule quantity. Same post in the forum indicates that in a future release he (Beersmith creator - Bradley Smith) would like to change the way that the costing is worked out in the program.

Here is the first two threads from this post. First is the initial question (like i have asked on this forum) and the second is Brad Smith's reply:

Title: Hop Price in BeerSmith
Post by: eviljafar on November 02, 2007, 06:04:48 AM
Hi all.

I recently bought BeerSmith and I really like it. I'm still getting used to it but there's one thing I'm having trouble with. I like using metric and I would like to have hop units set in metric. The shop I often buy hops from sell hops per 28g (1oz = 28.3g). If I go to Tools|Options|Units|Hops and set to grams it becomes difficult to set prices and calculate costs. It seems the hop price is then set per 100g. To get a price per 28g and get a correct cost I have to do some calculations myself. For example if I bought 28g for $1.29, in the hop type I have to set the price to $4.60 ($1.29/28*100) which is a bit of a hassle.

The easy work around is just to uses ounces, which isn't too much of a problem I guess, but it would be nice if it worked a little easier in metric. I've tried going to Tools|Options|Units and changing the purchase increment but that didn't work. Is there any way I can set the price unit for hops to per 28g? Maybe there is and I just can't find it?

Thanks, Jaf.

PS in the hop window the price is expressed as $/cg which is incorrect. cg is centigram, ie 1/100th of a gram (0.01 grams). 100 grams is a hectogram, hg.


Title: Re: Hop Price in BeerSmith
Post by: BeerSmith on November 02, 2007, 10:56:55 AM Jaf,
You are correct - I probably need to have some better options. The cg comment is spot on - I need to change that in the next version.

In what quantity are your hops sold locally? Obviously here we purchase in ounces, but I was not sure whether others purchased in grams, 25 g, 100g, or smaller packets?

One tip I can provide however - you can enter calculations directly into BeerSmith if you like, so entering (1.29/28*100) directly into the price field will calculate the correct price for you. You can do simple math in any field.

Cheers!
Brad Smith

thanks for all your help peoples. i have put 10c in for my hops prices and all seems to be working.

much appreciated.

nath