All Amarillo American Amber

[Dazza_devil]

G'day Brewers,
Here's the recipe I plan to put in today.

3kg LDME
200g Caraaroma, 18.27 EBC
200g Carared, 4.03 EBC
100g Carapils, 0.57 EBC
50g Roast Barley, 16.55EBC

40g Amarillo pellets 60mins
15g Amarillo pellets 15mins
15g Amarillo pellets 0mins
dry hop with 20g Amarillo pellets in primary after 5 days for 9 days

US-05 at 18 degrees
23 litres
The figures I have are,
OG 1.053
FG 1.013
EBC 32.6
IBU 31.6
5.6% alc/vol
Have I done something wrong? I've used Ian's Spreadsheet for the recipe.
I do have a fresh packet of Simcoe and Willamette pellets but really wanted to produce an all Amarillo if a 90g packet is enough.
Would my hop additions work out OK?
Any critique would be appreciated on the recipe.

Thanks/Cheers

 

[Stuster]

Looks good to me. I think I might drop the roast barley as the beer's going to be more brown than amber I'd say. But really it'll be fine either way and what you have now looks delicious. :icon_drool2:

 

[Dazza_devil]

Thanks Stuster,
I've just found a couple of Amber recipes using 50g Chocolate. Perhaps I could sub the Roast Barley for 50g of Choc (1200 EBC) that I have.
I'll be doing a 7 litre boil and I used the hop concentartion factor in Ian's spreadsheet which takes the boil volume into account. Hopefully that will work out well , I wanna drink it now.
Cheers

 

[Neill]

i'd lower the early addition and beef up the late additions personally. Two days ago i put down a brew

3kg LDME
500g Dex
20g Centennial 30mins
40g Amarillo 20 mins
40g Amarillo 10 mins
Nottingham

i think the late additions of amarillo are really bringing it to life. I only used the centennial cause i had it lying around, but i mainly wanted to showcase the amarillo in an otherwise neutral beer. IMHO you want big late additions with this one - the aroma is fantastic.

 

[Dazza_devil]

With 90g of Amarillo pellets to play with it's difficult to get the IBU's up without sacrificing aroma/flavour. Hopefully the concentration factor works in my favour. It makes a lot of difference to the IBU's without this calculation according to the speadsheet I'm using.

I'll try,
30g for 60mins
20g for 15 mins
20g flameout
and that still leaves 20g for dry hopping
Expected IBU of 26.6 which is quite low for the style which calls for balance between malt and bitterness.
The pellets are '08 crop so hopefully they have plenty of aroma/flavour.

 

[Neill]

I am not sure what you like in a beer, and what your preferences are, and what style you're aiming for, but i can tell you that _IN MY OPINION ONLY_ i would not worry about dry hopping, i would add the 20g in with the 15 min addition. you will get loads of aroma from the flameout addition of 20g. I would probably bitter it a bit more as you suggested, you will have a lot of body in this so i would go up to about 33-35 IBU personally. if you want less bitterness though, don't let me persuade you.

the 08 crop is what i've just used too - very good.

 

[Dazza_devil]

The whole house smells like Amarillo and man does it smell good. Just added 40g as origanally planned.

 

[Dazza_devil]

About to dry pitch the US-05. Wort temp. is around 23 degrees C, do you reckon I should bring it down to 21 before I pitch or should it be OK to pitch now and bring it down to 18 degrees C by the time fermentation begins?

 

[.DJ.]

ok to pitch!

 

[Neill]

yep bung it in now

 

[Dazza_devil]

Bewdy done. Time for a brew.
It looks on the brown side as Stutser suggested but fermentation may turn it toward an amber. I ended up using 30g of Roasted Barley(potent stuff), remembered other plans for my 250g Choc, and stuck with the originally posted hop schedule. Either way it's lookin like a delicious brew.

According to 2008 BJCP style guidelines,
"Should not have a strong chocolate or roast character that might suggest an
American brown ale (although small amounts are OK)."

I'll be sure to let you know how it ends up.
Cheers

 

[Dazza_devil]

Just cracked a stubbie that I'd saved of this.
Bottled on the 5th July making it 8 months old and it still has plenty of hop aroma and flavour, the bitterness is nicely rounded, sitting nicely with the malt. A beautiful white head which is staying till the end and nicely carbonated.
A superb drop if I don't say so myself and very amber.