Thoughts on using these as no-chills and then fermentering in them

[InterCooL]

Hi guys.
I have a small fridge I use for fermentation. And I'm looking to do some 10L BIAB batches to get me used to working with grains.

If I buy two of these:
http://www.thebrewshop.com.au/jerry-can.html

I can fit them in my fridge at the same time. (My fridge barely fits a 30L fermenter)


What are you opinions on using these jerry cans to no-chill and then to pitch directly into?
I was thinking of siphoning out of them as I wouldn't want the hot wort hitting a tap rubber oring

Thanks
David

 

[manticle]

Fine.
I (and others) often nc then pitch/ferment direct.
There's an article in the wiki section on exactly that - look for 'fermenting directly in the no chill cube'.
HDPE is the same thing a standard plastic fermenter is made from.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Me too. ferment in the no-chill container, in my case I use cubes.

Just remeber to adjust your final additions to take into account the extra IBU gained from no-chill

 

[brewermp]

Hey mate I don't have the link on here but I had a post discussing how I used two different jerry cans from bunnings and they worked perfectly. I no chill and ferment In same container fyi

 

[InterCooL]

Thanks guys. I read that article by manticle, very helpful

 

[dicko]

If you are fermenting 10 litres of beer you may want to consider a 15 litre cube to allow for the head space that some yeasts require.

Most lager yeasts would be OK but many ale yeasts can throw a head on top like an angry mother in law.

 

[Blind Dog]

Before you buy, make sure you can fit a tap or are happy with siphoning the fermented beer at the end

 

[InterCooL]

How much head space do you require for ales? I was unsure if 5L of air would be a problem re infection.

I would prefer the 15L cube but I don't think I can fit two at once in my fridge. I'll play around with the dimensions again and see if I can somehow manage 2 upright 15L cubes

 

[neo__04]

I used a 20L blue jerrycan to ferment a few times. had 19L in it, used gladwrap as a lid. there was a bit of gunk on the gladwrap but an ale & US05 didnt cause me any dramas.

 

[manticle]

You need much less headspace than you'd think. I don't worry - fill the cube as much as I can. Occasionally a small amount of easily kleaned krausen leakage but more often than not, it is contained.

 

[InterCooL]

Oh great. I'll order the 10L ones then. Thanks

 

[mosto]

Usually, these type of containers will hold more than their nominated capacity. I use 20L jerry's from bunnings and have fermented up to 23L in them and rarely had the yeast escape. When it does, I just give the area a spray with Starsan. Basically, you pour the hot wort and squeeze so the wort is ALMOST coming out the top, tighten the cap as hard as you can. Once cooled, air gets sucked back in when you release the cap, creating your headspace. It's a bit of a technique to balance, squeeze and tighten all at once, and you'll probably burn yourself the first couple of times. I know I did. My tip, put something between yourself and the container when squeezing, that way any hot wort the spills out the top does not land on you. An empty keg is ideal.

 

[InterCooL]

I think I'll be wearing some gloves too

What's the best way of transferring hot wort to a Jerry can? A siphon would most likely melt, and pouring into a slantes opening looks challenging

 

[manticle]

Silicon tube from kettle tap.

 

[stux]

Usually, these type of containers will hold more than their nominated capacity. I use 20L jerry's from bunnings and have fermented up to 23L in them and rarely had the yeast escape. When it does, I just give the area a spray with Starsan. Basically, you pour the hot wort and squeeze so the wort is ALMOST coming out the top, tighten the cap as hard as you can. Once cooled, air gets sucked back in when you release the cap, creating your headspace. It's a bit of a technique to balance, squeeze and tighten all at once, and you'll probably burn yourself the first couple of times. I know I did. My tip, put something between yourself and the container when squeezing, that way any hot wort the spills out the top does not land on you. An empty keg is ideal.

Pretty easy when you know how

Assuming the willow 20L containers, place freshly filled and closed container against a wall upright, put towel on knee. Tilt jerry to 30 degrees or so such that the lid is horizontal to ground. Gently lean into side of container with knee and undo lid until air escapes. Do lid back up as soon as some liquid escapes.

Wash sides/lid with hose, and perhaps a squirt of starsan.

Done

 

[stux]

I think I'll be wearing some gloves too
What's the best way of transferring hot wort to a Jerry can? A siphon would most likely melt, and pouring into a slantes opening looks challenging

Couple meters of silicon 1/2" hose and an SS jiggle siphon

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