Thoughts On This Milk Stout Recipe?

[peas_and_corn]

OK, I have this milk stout recipe, need advice on what I should change:

44L batch

4.1kg Pale malt
1.8kg wheat malt
0.9kg flaked oats
0.9kg carapils
0.5kg Choc malt
1.9kg crystal
0.3kg black patent
1kg lactose

Chinook 30g @ 60 min
Willamette 30g @ 15 min

Yeast to be decided

Advice?

 

[Benniee]

I'm no expert on this style - but I've got one slated in to my schedule in the next couple of brews. The recipe I'm going to brew is pretty much the same as Jamil talks about on his show about sweet stout.

I'm thinking that's not a lot of black malt - perhaps up it to around 1kg for a 44L batch. Also I'm planning on using pale chocolate instead of regular chocolate - 600g maybe?

Also 1.9kg seems to be stacks of crystal - Again, maybe 1kg of medium crystal.

The 1kg of lactose is similar to what Jamil talks about.

I'm going to use the Whitbread Ale yeast (Wyeast 1099).

Good luck with it - let us know how it turns out.

Benniee

 

[peas_and_corn]

1kg black and 600g pale choc sounds like quite a bit of the really dark grains- I'm always cautious when it comes to the amount of black because I don't want that 'guinness' black malt flavour. I'm not sure, though...

 

[Benniee]

1kg black and 600g pale choc sounds like quite a bit of the really dark grains- I'm always cautious when it comes to the amount of black because I don't want that 'guinness' black malt flavour. I'm not sure, though...

I think the black gives less of the roasty flavour than the roasted barley does. Again - just going off the Jamil show on the style he mentions that stouts usually have roasted barley in them, and he uses the black malt in the sweet stout to fit in with the style a bit better.

I'm going to use EKG hops in mine (sorry - forgot to mention that in my earlier reply).

Do you have a copy of the Jamil show on sweet stout? If not I'll dig up a link for you.

Benniee

 

[peas_and_corn]

the link would be great, cheers I don't have any of those podcasts, I'm thinking of downloading them.

 

[Benniee]

No problems.

Here is the link

 

[peas_and_corn]

Would you recommend I download and listen to all their podcasts?

 

[Benniee]

Would you recommend I download and listen to all their podcasts?

I guess that's up to you. I like to download the podcasts for the styles I'm interested in - and usually use his recipes as a base for what I end up making. Sometimes the shows contain a fair bit of clowning around between the hosts - which I don't mind too much but other people find it pretty annoying.

A link to all of the Jamil shows is here

 

[Benniee]

How did you go with the stout? I still haven't done mine yet - hopefully in the next couple of weeks.

Benniee

 

[sinkas]

Would you recommend I download and listen to all their podcasts?

If you have a slightly sick sense of humour, then sure, I think often the comedy, if you can call it that, is just as good as the infomacion. Porbably not work safe, or child friendly much of the time though.

 

[peas_and_corn]

How did you go with the stout? I still haven't done mine yet - hopefully in the next couple of weeks.

Benniee

Haven't brewed it yet- there's two more batches on the list before I get to the milk stout. When it's ready I'll post how it went and if I like it, I'll throw the recipe on the recipe DB.

If you have a slightly sick sense of humour, then sure, I think often the comedy, if you can call it that, is just as good as the infomacion. Porbably not work safe, or child friendly much of the time though.

Sounds pretty good to me I listened to a couple of them, liked what I heard and I'm downloading them now. I'm also probably going to download the Sunday podcasts as well. Their segways aren't annoying, they make the 'casts have a casual feel to them, which is nice.

 

[Benniee]

I've just kegged my Milk Stout - made to the recipe on The Jamil Show. Taste of the sample was very clean, subtle in it's flavours - and not overly sweet. I stepped the volume of my recipe up a little from the original - but could only step up the lactose a little because of the packaging (500g).

Obviously the beer is still very young and I'll be leaving it to condition a while before sampling some - but at this stage I would probably have added in a little roasted barley just to give it a touch of roastyness - I didn't add any (only using black malt).

I also didn't play with my water at all - and having looked up the specs it appears to be pretty soft and I understand that stouts do better with a little hardness in the water.

If anyone is interested I'll post back on how this beer turns out in a month or so.

Benniee

 

[peas_and_corn]

That would be good actually, my 'to brew' list has the milk stout next, will probably make it in about four weeks or so.

 

[Effect]

where can one acquire lactose? health shop? LHBS?

 

[buttersd70]

LHBS should have it.