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Tony said:
GalBrew.

Im sure there will be people out there who think that because they have made a $30 donation to the site to support its running costs, that their poop dont stink. Some people will tend to stick their chest out further while behind the safety of a keyboard.

But there will also be the majority of people who dont feel this way, and will always offer to help and contribute to the forum.

I see it this way......... AHB is a public place, just like a shopping mall. Open to all who care to wander in and free to do what they want, say what they want and have their opinions, as long as they dont break the law or local rules set out by the management of said mall.

Some people will be trying to make a living selling stuff and contributing nothing else to the mass of society that has wandered in. Some go there to socialise, some go there because they have nothing better to do and just look around, and some go there to buy a product from a store. Without the shops, there would be no mall.

People on AHB will all differ in how they use the space. The retailers are here to sell something, some chose to contribute and socalise also, some just sit in their shop and wait for patrons to wander in. If they break the rules set out they are corrected. Some people will have opinions on how the place is run, and how others conduct themselves and they are entitles to have those opinions, and voice them, as long as they work withing the site rules.

People will also come across differently in test than they would in a face to face conversation. People often type how they would say something, but we forget as we read, thet the comment is missing tone of voice and facial expressions that we use more than we realise. I have upset and been upset by this very problem with internet chat.

I say relax, if you dont like it, skip over it or ignore it. If someone or something really gives you the poops, block it or them.

Use your jusgement on who to listen to and who not to, depending on what you want from AHB...... and let the rest just blend into the noise of the mall!

cheers
A very good analagy Tony, very well put.

Earlier in this thread I suggested that posting in the retail forum be limited to Pro Members. If I may, I'd like to take your analagy a little further to suggest that the retailers in the mall pay rent in order to sell their wares. I would say that charging retailers to post in that forum, by way of Pro membership, is essentially, rent. Sponsors, IMO, already pay 'rent', so should be exempt, and maybe could receive Pro status as part of their sponsorship package

I've got nothing against Vince, I read his first couple of threads, realised I wasn't interested, so I don't read his threads anymore. He posts where he should, so doesn't break any rules. My suggestion is not aimed to punish people like Vince, but generate money for the site.
 
Masto...... limiting posting in the retail thread to Pro Members would solve nothing, limit retailes exposure to potential customers and act as fuel on the fire to the "us and them" issue, which is not what pro membership is about.

As for retailers being charged to post or advertise in the retail section, that will solve nothing either, and ends up bordering on descrimination. Where does the line get drawn? I can go to the buy and sell section and advertise stuff to sell privatly.

They wear the Retailers badge so that it is crearly stated what their intentions are when advertising, and yes, it would make more money for the forum, but i also dont think the forum is here to make money for its owner. Thats not what it is about.

Its a comunity.

Pure and simple. and it takes all sorts to make a comunity. Thats where there is a devision between AHB and my comparison to a mall. Generally, almost all people come here because of a passion for, or interest in beer and/or brewing.

I have said my bit, and i have also had enough of this thread.

Its good to see it finally calmed down into some resionably decent conversation.

cheers
 
Tony said:
Pure and simple. and it takes all sorts to make a comunity.
And that community will always call out those who do not contribute. It's human nature.
 
Nick JD said:
But that's what I thought the good-side-of-the-internet was all about.
What's this got to do with pictures of naked women performing sexual acts on...well...pretty much anything, really?
 

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