Red Lager Comments

[NeilArge]

HNY all,

Below is
a recipe for a red lager that I have fairly faithfully reproduced from another source. I'm keen to make this beer but I'm a bit concerned about the amount of crystal (and wheat, but that is a lesser issue) in it. Should I lose the straight crystal addition given the carared and the cara-aroma? Any constructive ideas greatly appreciated.

Cheers

ToG

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Better Red than Dead!
Brewer: Neil
Asst Brewer:
Style: California Common Beer
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 23.00 L
Boil Size: 26.33 L
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 25.1 EBC
Estimated IBU: 26.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.Grain 61.98 %
0.68 kg Vienna Malt (6.9 EBC) Grain 14.05 %
0.45 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (3.5 EBGrain 9.30 %
0.28 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 5.79 %
0.23 kg Caraaroma (256.1 EBC) Grain 4.75 %
0.20 kg Carared (39.4 EBC) Grain 4.13 %
42.00 gm Hallertauer [4.80 %] (60 min) Hops 21.5 IBU
15.00 gm Hallertauer [4.80 %] (15 min) Hops 3.8 IBU
28.30 gm Hallertauer [4.80 %] (1 min) Hops 0.6 IBU
1 Pkgs California Lager (Wyeast Labs #2112) [StarYeast-Lager


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body
Total Grain Weight: 4.84 kg
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Single Infusion, Light Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
75 min Mash In Add 14.52 L of water at 69.3 C 64.0 C
10 min Mash Out Add 8.08 L of water at 99.0 C 75.6 C

 

[razz]

Regarding the source of the recipe ToG, what sort of feed back or comments has it had from the author or others? 710 gms is a lot in a recipe that size.

 

[NeilArge]

Regarding the source of the recipe ToG, what sort of feed back or comments has it had from the author or others? 710 gms is a lot in a recipe that size.

Thanks Razz - I do agree. Apparently it's a perty popular recipe amongst the North American homebrewing fraternity. But I had made a bit of a cock-up with my version by adding some CaraRed in and not reducing the other crystal malts accordingly. I've decided to drop the CaraRed altogether, keep the medium crystal in (230g) and sub the other darker crystal with CaraAroma.

I can post the update recipe if anyone is interested.

Cheers

ToG

 

[thylacine]

I have used and enjoyed a similar recipe that uses Melanoidan rather than the Cararoma.

Cheers

 

[NeilArge]

I have used and enjoyed a similar recipe that uses Melanoidan rather than the Cararoma.

Cheers

Melanoiden sounds like a good option, too. I was actually going to try this but opted for Cararoma as this is seen as a reasonable sub for Special B, which was stipulated in the original recipe. You've given me a great excuse to do another version!

Cheers

ToG

 

[np1962]

Melanoidin will certainly give you the red colour.
Cheers
Nige

 

[NeilArge]

Melanoidin will certainly give you the red colour.
Cheers
Nige

So, for a beer like this, would you opt for melanoidin over cararoma?
I must say: this is looking more like an Oktoberfest recipe with the cali common yeast! :lol: No bad thing there either I guess.

ToG