Recipe Suggestions

[Effect]

Hi there,

When I dived into AG I bought 1 bag of JW ale malt and 1 bag of JW pilsner malt. Now I have used all but 5 kg of my ale malt and have now bought a bag of Marris Otter but I still have more than 20 kilos of pilsner malt - with no intentions of making an lagers.

Could someone recommend me some recipies (from anywhere) that would allow me to use up the pilsner malt?

I am asking this as I am not too sure on the quality of JW malt. Could I make something like this ? Where it is basically the only malt used.

If you can think of any recipe that will allow for JW pilsner malt to be substituted for ale malt that would be really great!

Cheers
Phil

 

[brettprevans]

why not see if you can swap the pils malt with someone in your area for a differant malt?

edit: sorry i cant help with the recipes.

 

[Fourstar]

Cream Ale/Pseudo CAP, FTW.

Use All Pils malt instead of 60% Pils 20% Ale and you're away, I cant forsee there being a big flavour diff b/w all pils over the 60:20 ale malt in an ale anyway. Dead set quaffer.


Recipe: Willies Secret Stash (Cream Ale)
Brewer: Braden
Asst Brewer:
Style: Cream Ale
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 23.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG


Ingredients:
Pilsner, Malt Craft Export (Joe White) 80%
Rice, Flaked (1.0 SRM) 10%
Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) 5%
Sugar, Table (Sucrose) 5%

Northern Brewer 25IBU (60 Min)
20.00 gm Northern Brewer Flameout

 

[SJW]

As far as I can tell theres not much diff between Pils and Ale malt these days anyway. I have interchanged both with no noticable difference. ie, used 100% B&B Ale malt for a Pilsner. I suspect, other than a small colour diff, that specific Pilsner malt was an undermodofied malt it the old days and ale malt was a full modified type of malt. As for JW, I never touch the stuff.

Steve

 

[buttersd70]

tonys lcba uses JW pils as the base...link

If you use pils in a recipe that has ale as the base, it might be a bit lighter, maybe (and this is only a maybe) not quite the depth of flavour. Depends on the level of malt backbone you're after anyway.....but if you sub it for an ale base balt, and you're worried itwon't have the depth, you could always add a dash of, say, munich, to up the maltiness a bit anyway.

 

[drsmurto]

My original version of golden ale has pilsner as the base malt.

i see no reason you cant use it as a base malt in place of ale, i do regularly and know of others who do the same.

 

[Effect]

tonys lcba uses JW pils as the base...link

If you use pils in a recipe that has ale as the base, it might be a bit lighter, maybe (and this is only a maybe) not quite the depth of flavour. Depends on the level of malt backbone you're after anyway.....but if you sub it for an ale base balt, and you're worried itwon't have the depth, you could always add a dash of, say, munich, to up the maltiness a bit anyway.

how much % is a dash butters? 5%?

 

[white.grant]

Hi Phillip

There's a whole wolrd of belgians out there. Can make some very nice blondes and strong ales with not much more fermentables than pilsener, melanoiden and sugar.

There's a duvel clone (think its SJW's?) that is pils malt and sugar (and some hops).

cheers

grant

 

[petesbrew]

Hi there,

When I dived into AG I bought 1 bag of JW ale malt and 1 bag of JW pilsner malt. Now I have used all but 5 kg of my ale malt and have now bought a bag of Marris Otter but I still have more than 20 kilos of pilsner malt - with no intentions of making an lagers.

Could someone recommend me some recipies (from anywhere) that would allow me to use up the pilsner malt?

I am asking this as I am not too sure on the quality of JW malt. Could I make something like this ? Where it is basically the only malt used.

If you can think of any recipe that will allow for JW pilsner malt to be substituted for ale malt that would be really great!

Cheers
Phil

Pretty sure my first Partial Altbier was with pilsner Malt.

With thanks to Duff for the recipe

3kg JW Pilsner
1.5kg LLME
100g Spalt @60min
WLP 029 German Ale/Kolsch
Fermented at 18c

 

[PostModern]

Kolsch?

 

[buttersd70]

how much % is a dash butters? 5%?

Yeah, thereabouts. Subject to -ish, of course...just to give it a little more oomph.

 

[SJW]

There's a duvel clone (think its SJW's?) that is pils malt and sugar (and some hops).

cheers

grant

Not a bad drop either. I think it went ok in a local comp too!.


#44 Duvel*
Belgian Golden Strong Ale

Type: All Grain
Date: 21/07/2007
Batch Size: 28.00 L
Brewer: Stephen Wright
Boil Size: 35.90 L Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 75 min Equipment: Hop Monster Brewery
Taste Rating(out of 50): 0.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00
Taste Notes: 4th Place HAG 2008

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
6500.00 gm Pilsner Boh (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 86.67 %
12.00 gm Northern Brewer [9.90 %] (60 min) Hops 9.6 IBU
45.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.20 %] (60 min) Hops 15.3 IBU
55.00 gm Saaz [2.50 %] (30 min) Hops 8.5 IBU
0.50 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1000.00 gm Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (2.0 EBC) Sugar 13.33 %
1 Pkgs Belgian Strong Ale (Wyeast Labs #1388) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.066 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.066 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.016 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.62 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 7.31 %
Bitterness: 33.4 IBU Calories: 622 cal/l
Est Color: 7.0 EBC Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Double Infusion, Light Body Total Grain Weight: 6500.00 gm
Sparge Water: 22.41 L Grain Temperature: 12.0 C
Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C TunTemperature: 12.0 C
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Double Infusion, Light Body Step Time Name Description Step Temp
10 min Protein Rest Add 10.00 L of water at 59.4 C 50.0 C
60 min Saccrification Add 10.00 L of water at 83.7 C 65.0 C

 

[white.grant]

Not a bad drop either. I think it went ok in a local comp too!.

Got me thirsting for some duvel now. :icon_drool2:

 

[boingk]

The 'whiteboard photo' Coopers Pale clone calls for it, as does the Little Creatures Bright Ale clone.

Dying to make both of them...

Cheers - boingk

 

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#44 Duvel*
Belgian Golden Strong Ale

Problem solved!

Cheers
Phil

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Nothing wrong with pils malt.

Just use it and stop worrying B)

If you want a bit more maltyness just add a bit of munich

honestly there is not that much difference to worry about