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[schooey]

Cascadian Dark Ale (black IPA) or whatever it's going to be called...

 

[BrenosBrews]

American-style India black ale

 

[haysie]

What CDA category?

Wake up mate. Theres more categories than the dumpster specialty you so lively protect.

 

[schooey]

How stupid of me to forget the Americanisation....

 

[pbrosnan]

They need to clean up their act before they add more Americanised beer styles. <_<
GB

I'd say that all the styles are Amercanised. After all the BJCP is a creation of the US Homebrewers association and some other US wine and beer groups. The styles have been arrived at retrospectively, they aren't styles that have evolved out of the industry. Beer classification by the industry is largely pointless, is VB a bitter. Is TT Landlords Ale the same as Well's Bombardier? Belgium beers at one level are quite easily classified but (Dubbel, Trippel, Lambic etc) but then are a lot of Belgium beers that vary so much that they all get dumped in the "Belgium Pale" category. So I reckon it's pretty pointless brewing to style. The styles are a useful source of inspiration but it's better to brew what you like and then see which style it fits into best if you're planning to enter it in a comp.

 

[mje1980]

Just kind of "cheapens" the whole BJCP thing a bit i think.

 

[BrenosBrews]

Wake up mate. Theres more categories than the dumpster specialty you so lively protect.

Really? I had no idea.
And it's not that I so lively protect the specialty category, it's that I fail to comprehend your opposition to the concept of new styles being developed by experimental, creative brewers and organisations dedicated to the promotion of beer defining those styles. Should we stick to brewing Hefeweizens, Bitters, Porters, Stouts et al?

By the way, didn't you enter a Raspberry Porter in the specialty category this year?

How stupid of me to forget the Americanisation....

Well it is a style originally brewed by American craft brewers, popularised by American craft brewers and still predominatly brewed by American craft brewers so it sort of makes sense does it not? Or should we drop the American from American Pale Ale, American Amber Ale, American IPA, American Brown Ale etc. as well?

 

[Howlingdog]

what's to stop a homebrew community here ( or in germany,UK, or zambia ) from forming the XYZbrewing charter, and making their own set of style guidelines?.

We have one in Qld - "QAAWBG" - good prizes - can of out of date goo. :lol:

 

[jakub76]

Bloody hell. It seems like only moths ago (because it was) I was reading heated debates between US brewers as to whether BIPAs and CDAs should even be considered the similar let alone the same thing.

Glad that's all been sorted.

The debate wasn't over if the beer styles were the same - it was about which name is more appropriate. Most in the US pacific northwest thinks of it as Cascadian Dark Ale after their region, "Cascadia" relating to the Cascade Mountain Range.

Most everyone else seems to consider it a Black India Pale Ale, I understand the exception to the regional naming but having 'black' and 'pale' in the same name seems a bit stupid to me. I'm going with CDA.

 

[bum]

I've read quite a few discussions saying that a light roast quality is appropriate in CDA but absolutely not in a BIPA and thus they shouldn't be considered the same. Dunno if either is true - just justifying my earlier post.

 

[brett mccluskey]

EXACTLY what Gryph said. or do i just +1
Or lets everyone enter a beer at state next year and call it a specialty, now what a great style that would be zzzzz zzzzzz zzzzz, the most boring category of beer on earth that includes EVERYTHING that doesnt fit elsewhere, a nomads category. If it was fruit/lambic, rye/spice etc etc maybe it would hold a little bit more credence in my eyes. As it is, its a dumpster.
Judges are hard to find according to this years AABC, new styles when maybe the current ones need more attention might be more worthwhile.

Boring my arse I was one of the judges in the specialty class at Vicbrew,and there were some great beers entered :beer: Some beers were knocked down in points because of things like ingredients described on the entry form not being detectable/lightly detectable.It might still have been a very nice beer,,but if you specify an ingredient ,then the judge should be able to taste it I can't remember any entries with any major faults,and some were excellent,well made examples of brewers thinking "outside the box". A great experience for any judge IMO :super:

 

[under]

Im on the same boat as thirsty on this one.

 

[HoppingMad]

Hmmm...another new possible style.

I do quite like Black IPAs, but from a homebrewing perspective if you let every little thing in as a new seperate style you'd have a brain explosion every time you had to figure out what you were going to brew up for a comp.

Hopper.

 

[Cortez The Killer]

Golden Imperial Stout anyone?

http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article.php?id=280

 

[BrenosBrews]

Golden Imperial Stout anyone?

http://www.brewdog.com/blog-article.php?id=280

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