Interbreeding in early hominins

[pcmfisher]

Don't suppose they will like this either.

http://rt.com/news/167044-uk-bans-teaching-creationism/

Creationism Theory?

It aint a theory, its barely a hypotheseis.

 

[Dave70]

as an alternative to Darwinism.

I wish they'd stop calling it that..

 

[Liam_snorkel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAqR93K27TA

"enigma man" 8:30pm ABC TV tonight. Doco about the Red Deer Cave people.

 

[Greg.L]

A good article in the NY Times about a recent descovery of 900 000 YO footprints recently discovered in wales.

http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2014%2F06%2F24%2Fscience%2Fa-sunken-kingdom-re-emerges.html%3Fsrc%3Ddayp%26action%3Dclick%26pgtype%3DHomepage%26module%3Dc-column-above-moth-fixed-region%26region%3Dc-column-above-moth-fixed-region%26WT.nav%3Dc-column-above-moth-fixed-region%26_r%3D0

"Little is known about this early human species. Fossil skeletons in Atapuerca, Spain, from around the same time suggest that they walked upright and looked much like modern humans, though their brains were smaller. If they had language, it was primitive. Living at the tail end of an interglacial era, as winters were growing colder, they may have had functional body hair. So far, there is no evidence that they used clothes, shelter, fire or tools more complex than simple stone flakes."

 

[wide eyed and legless]

A good article in the NY Times about a recent descovery of 900 000 YO footprints recently discovered in wales.

Saw a link to that on iflscience, not surprised that those footprints were found in Wales, a lot of Welshmen will have you believe God was Welsh, and they still speak in a primitive language

 

[Greg.L]

The show about the red deer cave people last night was good, seems likely that they were another recent species of human. The genes from the denisovan fossil actually show up in the people living in New Guinea now, there was a lot of migration over the years. I think it is quite possible there have been multiple species of humans living in Australia in the past, but we haven't found the fossils yet.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

The more species that are found the harder it becomes to identify our own evolution, its probably something that we will never find out.

Creationism Theory?

It aint a theory, its barely a hypotheseis.

Easy to say that in our day and age, but 200 years ago all Christians lived by the bible and it held society as we know it together,probably better than today, but it has passed its use by date well and truly, probably a pity that the teachings of Kung Fu Tzu wasn't there to be adopted by the world, could have been a better place.

 

[Midnight Brew]

Slightly off topic but also an interesting read

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/could-you-be-related-genghis-khan

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Wouldn't be surprised, the worlds biggest empire, bound to have left a few of his Y chromosomes lying in his wake.

 

[mr_wibble]

It is interesting that up until 20 000 years ago there was always a variety of human species, but now there is only us, presumably we're the cause of the other species going extinct. I think it's likely there were other humans living here when the aborigines arrived, though that is speculation. If eliminating competitors is a measure of success we are certainly at the top. However we have only been around a very short time, geologically speaking. Dinosaurs ruled the world for 100 million years, that's pretty impressive. If we can hang around for a few million years without buggering things up we can claim to be successful.

I think interbreeding is more likely than extinction
Humans will interbreed with just about anything although not perhaps always successfully.

 

[TimT]

I do wonder what the sex drive was like in those days when we weren't quite.... human yet, and there were a whole load of people around who weren't quite human in odd and different ways too. Did the ladies all of a sudden go, "Ooh, there's a hairless lunk over there, sexy!" Did a chimpanzee suddenly look at a Neanderthal in a way it had never looked at anyone before and get hot and heavy? I mean, these days sexual attraction is pretty narrowly defined by a lot of social rules and well-established ideas about beauty, etc - but a lot of our ancestors must have been much less discerning. Probably people must have had a lot of motivation to do it with anything and everything in times of population decline or famine or following a plague, when choices were much more limited.

 

[pcmfisher]

The more species that are found the harder it becomes to identify our own evolution, its probably something that we will never find out.

Easy to say that in our day and age, but 200 years ago all Christians lived by the bible and it held society as we know it together,probably better than today, but it has passed its use by date well and truly, probably a pity that the teachings of Kung Fu Tzu wasn't there to be adopted by the world, could have been a better place.

Yeah, held society together as long as you were part of the 'in' group.
You know, the ones that happen to agree that your God is superior to all others.

Creationism wasn't a theory back then either.
By theory I mean in scientific terms, like the theory of evolution by natural selection and gravitational theory.

 

[Greg.L]

I think interbreeding is more likely than extinction
Humans will interbreed with just about anything although not perhaps always successfully.

If by interbreeding you mean rape and murder, that might be an explanation, perhaps these other species were interbred to extinction. Species like the Hobbits, the red deer cave people and neanderthals were around very recently, doesn't leave much time for the interbreeding. Perhaps we "interbred" the megafauna as well, and the dodos.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

In those days a preacher didn't start a sermon by saying " I have a theory----" People believed what the church taught them, but education put an end to that, this is why Islamic hard liners don't want education that would take power away from them, typical of what Boko Haram are doing at the moment.
I have no problem with people who want to believe in God and go to church as long as they respect my belief, that there is no God or life after death, although realistically we don't actually die once we have procreated, we are a constant on the evolutionary ladder the only thing that governs our destiny is ourselves and or nature.