Great Beer Keg

[kymba]

if you want cash and following from the community, you need:
1 good quality
2 good price
3 ball lock posts
4 24L capacity
5 corny lid
6 no BS

and whatever i've left out...is it possible frank?

 

[DU99]

i think he is trying to get interest in the product they all ready make..

 

[michael_aussie]

i think he is trying to get interest in the product they all ready make..

then he's going to fail here

 

[DU99]

i use kegs with couplers..

 

[fcmcg]

this is there website

DU...
There = over there
Their = theirs...as in their website
they're = they are...
Oneday , you'll get it right lol
Bitch , aren't I...

 

[beerdrinkingbob]

DU...
There = over there
Their = theirs...as in their website
they're = they are...
Oneday , you'll get it right lol
Bitch , aren't I...

Why don't you two take it outside........

 

[fcmcg]

Why don't you two take it outside........

Why?
Then there would be nothing for you to be amused by ! Maybe the last beer i had last night has given me a headache and a a case of the grumbles lol
You can say " Look ! They're at it again"
Besides , it'll give us something to talk about at the next meeting , besides beer lol

 

[frankyhx]

if you want cash and following from the community, you need:
1 good quality
2 good price
3 ball lock posts
4 24L capacity
5 corny lid
6 no BS

and whatever i've left out...is it possible frank?

I am afraid not for the moment.
We gotta sell our current products well in the first place.
Otherwise, cash is not enough to support r&d and production of new types.

 

[frankyhx]

the ideal dimensions of a keg is an argument that will never be resolved.
what suits me, won't suit the next guy, and so on and so on.

Looking at Frank's range:
http://majorbeerkeg.com/Products/European_...rd_Series_1.htm
it appears to me that they are geared up for a set range of kegs.

Frank isn't going to jig up a special diameter for a peanut order.
The best we can hope for is if Frank could incorporate a cleaning hatch and a pair of sockets that are the same thread as the Corny posts.
If we can get that = at the "right" price = at the "right" quality = we have won the game.

Is is possible? --- of course it is.

Will it happen?

Well that depends on many things.

Franks company already makes kegs. That's a good start. To try to get kegs made in your run of the mill fab shop 7,000km would be almost impossible. Frank's company make kegs so we are already 80% of the way there. Are his kegs "acceptable quality"? Who knows? What is acceptable for me may not be acceptable for everyone. Is the material "thick enough"? Does that even matter? Will the stainless be an acceptable grade? There are many grades of stainless steel. Are the welds "pretty enough"? What is the pressure rating of the kegs? 130psi? Do they actually need to be rated that high? I certainly never have anywhere near that pressure in my kegs, but it is kind of reassuring that the kegs are rated far above the pressures I operate with. What design will the hatches, pressure relief valves, and post sockets be? I know that the fittings on my current kegs, although notionally the same, arent actually interchangeable. I cannot universally swap dip tubes, PRVs, hatches and posts as small differences mean that A will fit on B but not vice versa.

Frank, I wish you luck.

I hope this flies, but I also know how hard it will be to tick all the boxes, dot all the is and cross all the ts.

Hi, Mike. You pretty much explained everything.
What I prefer is
1. Make a good sale of our current products, which are listed on our website.
2. Develop new products, perhaps corny kegs. as it seems to be very popular.
3. But sales of corny kegs may be a bit tough, as it is mainly used by homebrewers. Thus, perhaps we will try to find an agent or wholesaler in Austrailia to gather up all the demands for corny kegs.

Well, you are also quite right about the quality. But, one thing for sure, we pay a lot of our attention to the keg quality. Actually, quality is our biggest selling point, while the price comes next.

Thanks again, Mike.

 

[frankyhx]

Being pressure vessels, do your kegs comply with the relevant Australian standards ?

What testing do ypu do ?

Kegs are pretty expensive bits of gear - what warranties are there and would we have to ship a leaky keg back to China for repairs ?

We have quite a lot of tests going on.
FYI pressre test, drop test, brust test, color label conglutination test, anti-corrosion (salt spray) test, mechanical test, etc.
I am not in charge of technical matters, thus this is all I can tell. lol

 

[Nick JD]

Frank - check out some of the Youtube videos on kegging setups for homebrewing. The Cornie Keg setup is pretty much universal.

While you may not be currently industrially or financially capable of making Cornie Kegs (I'd find out how big the used stockpile is first and foremost) ball/pin lock connectors and a lid would stir interest among the worldwide kegging folk. This is what their kegging systems are set up to use.

If you could sell a keg that could be used tomorrow by homebrewers without modifying their system (buying things to make the kegs work), you'd sell lots. But you'd have to match the price of a used Cornie (AUD$60), and who knows how manu millions of Cornies are still left in American warehouses?

 

[DU99]

:icon_offtopic: it don't bother me bob..he has nothing better to do..

People have forgotten that asahi comes in 19 litre keg also does Heineken..but they have coupler connection's

 

[bigfridge]

We have quite a lot of tests going on.
FYI pressre test, drop test, brust test, color label conglutination test, anti-corrosion (salt spray) test, mechanical test, etc.
I am not in charge of technical matters, thus this is all I can tell. lol

lol = Laugh Out Loud

Frank, I don't think that safety is a laughing matter - particularly if you get sued for someone getting hurt or someone has to dump a batch of beer because of flavour tants from poor quality stainess.

If you are serious about being a professional, reliable supplier then you need to answer these questions.

Do they comply with the Australian standards for pressure vessels ?

What warranties are available ?

If we organise a bulk buy of 100 kegs and some are faulty, have poor quality (ie non-sanitary) welds, rust or leak - do we have to send them back to China for repairs ?

Do a search here for 'Chinese Hops' and you will see that there is a lot of resistance to buying things claimed to be top quality that turn out to be poor imatations of the European originals.

BTW, As a qualified Metallurgist I know a bit about these things

 

[DU99]

:icon_offtopic: it don't bother me bob..he has nothing better to do..

People have forgotten that asahi comes in 19 litre keg also does Heineken..but they have coupler connection's

 

[frankyhx]

Frank - check out some of the Youtube videos on kegging setups for homebrewing. The Cornie Keg setup is pretty much universal.

While you may not be currently industrially or financially capable of making Cornie Kegs (I'd find out how big the used stockpile is first and foremost) ball/pin lock connectors and a lid would stir interest among the worldwide kegging folk. This is what their kegging systems are set up to use.

If you could sell a keg that could be used tomorrow by homebrewers without modifying their system (buying things to make the kegs work), you'd sell lots. But you'd have to match the price of a used Cornie (AUD$60), and who knows how manu millions of Cornies are still left in American warehouses?

Sorry mate. Youtube is blocked here.
I will check it on some other sites.

 

[frankyhx]

lol = Laugh Out Loud

Frank, I don't think that safety is a laughing matter - particularly if you get sued for someone getting hurt or someone has to dump a batch of beer because of flavour tants from poor quality stainess.

If you are serious about being a professional, reliable supplier then you need to answer these questions.

Do they comply with the Australian standards for pressure vessels ?

What warranties are available ?

If we organise a bulk buy of 100 kegs and some are faulty, have poor quality (ie non-sanitary) welds, rust or leak - do we have to send them back to China for repairs ?

Do a search here for 'Chinese Hops' and you will see that there is a lot of resistance to buying things claimed to be top quality that turn out to be poor imatations of the European originals.

BTW, As a qualified Metallurgist I know a bit about these things

Sorry mate, but I never took safety as a laughing matter.

Yes, they do. We have shipped several containers to Aussie brewers.
We have a 10-year quality assurance, covered by the insurance company, with a LIMIT OF LIABILITY: $10,000,000
We have never come across problems like that, but if it does happen, we can either reimburse you or do as you said, take them back and fix them.