Got A Tin Of Coopers Green For Xmas

[petesbrew]

I am going to the the yeast harvest thing one day Beemann.

ok ok ok

playing around the in kit calculator in excel

coopers tin
light dry malt 1.2kgs
light crystal 200gms
dextrose 500gms
Amarillo 30gms @ 10 mins
Centennial 30gms @ 10mins
Amarillo 20gms @ 0
Centennial 20gms @ 0

for a English IPA the OG FG and IBU are all ok but the EBC is low.
suppose it only colour isnt it?

To be honest I couldn't give a rats arse about the finer points of brewing (probably why I never win a comp) but if you want an english IPA, go for english hops. Those are Yankee hops you're using. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

 

[hoppy2B]

I used a Coopers Real Ale tin in November to make a brew for xmas and over the summer. Didn't add anything to it at all but water. Wanted to see how it would turn out and figure out from there what I need to add to suit my tastes.
I consider the Iso hops in it very harsh. I've only ever used Black Rock malt in the past and treat my hops gently.
As far as the yeast is concerned, I am aware that it is a different strain from that in the bottled stuff but I think they have done a good job finding a match.
I wouldn't add any extra fermentables as I like light beer because I can drink more of it.
All in all though a pretty average beer. I'm only using the Coopers tins because they're cheap and I'm planning to do split batches to test flavour variations using different yeast, hops etc. Hopefully the tins will give me a uniform base for making accurate comparisons.

 

[Yob]

The yeast is an ale\lager blend as far as I know, I would certainly be replacing this yeast with a us05 or other preferred, check out mr malty.com for dry yeast pitching rates, based on your ingredients, I tbink you will need more than the kit yeast can provide.

Yob

 

[DU99]

Briess CBW Golden Light Dried Malt Extract is what i use.with US05

Hoppy2B use the same recipe but use english hops(fuggles)

 

[np1962]

I used a Coopers Real Ale tin in November to make a brew for xmas and over the summer. Didn't add anything to it at all but water. Wanted to see how it would turn out and figure out from there what I need to add to suit my tastes.
I consider the Iso hops in it very harsh. I've only ever used Black Rock malt in the past and treat my hops gently.
As far as the yeast is concerned, I am aware that it is a different strain from that in the bottled stuff but I think they have done a good job finding a match.
I wouldn't add any extra fermentables as I like light beer because I can drink more of it.
All in all though a pretty average beer. I'm only using the Coopers tins because they're cheap and I'm planning to do split batches to test flavour variations using different yeast, hops etc. Hopefully the tins will give me a uniform base for making accurate comparisons.

Your approach is destined to give you the harsh bitterness you describe as coming from the isohops.
The cans are designed to be used with a kilo of fermentable sugars and not using them will give you much higher perceived bitterness.
If you want low alcohol you should increase the amount of water used, or only use half a can and half a kilo per 23L batch.
Also, the kit yeast is nothing like the yeast in the bottles.
Nige

 

[hoppy2B]

Your approach is destined to give you the harsh bitterness you describe as coming from the isohops.
The cans are designed to be used with a kilo of fermentable sugars and not using them will give you much higher perceived bitterness.
If you want low alcohol you should increase the amount of water used, or only use half a can and half a kilo per 23L batch.
Also, the kit yeast is nothing like the yeast in the bottles.
Nige

Yeah I'm not really into the sugar thing, bit cheap and nasty for my liking. I thought adding sugar would increase the dryness of my beer and was under the impression that only accentuates bitterness. Black Rock malt seems a lot sweeter.
It would be interesting to do a split batch with half a dozen different yeasts and see how many people can pick them correctly.