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Hi all, haven't been on the site in quite some time buts its nice to see everyone is still brewing strong. As i am running out of beers, i thought i better get back into it and why not start with a full extract. I have quite a few brews under my belt which were all kits with a couple of extra hops and what not added here and there however as i havent brewed for a while, i have lost what little knowledge i had. I want to produce a ale which is easy drinking and can be shared round with the mates, just a plain and simple beer. I had the idea of going with the coopers liquid malt (only becuase i tasted a mates which was pretty nice) which there is a link to here [post="0"]Coopers Malt[/post] down the bottom of the page. What i am not quite sure on is what hop to use, what are your opinions on a simple hop to use for this type of beer and just any advice on the overall beer itself?
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers
-eddy-
 
i just brewed a the nelson sauvin summer ale and goes down a treat

but other suggestions maybe lcpa or james squire golden ale styles always go down well with mates
 
i just made a fairly basic blonde ale which i made for my megaswill mates. mainly lquid malt, bit of dextose and wheat malt, and bittered/flavored using cascade and saaz to 25 ibu's, us05 yeast. tastes preeeetty good form the fermenter. its finished fermenting, just, u know, chilling and killing in the fermenter until i can grab some more bottles.

Sponge
 
There are various things you can do, and I'd recommend do something easy like you've said. Having said that, now, you can do almost anything you want! Why not try a German style lager, a classic Australian ale, or whatever you feel like really.

3 kilos of extract will be a good start. Mix it together with your water [at least 5 litres worth, up to 8 if you can manage] and put on the stove, keeping a close watch as it will bubble and foam up dramatically once boil is reached. Coopers malt is exellent stuff, just check the use by date on the can to make sure its fairly fresh and hasnt been sitting around for a year.

The Aussie ale I'd bitter with Pride of Ringwood. Use a calculator to find out how many grams you need, which will depend on the AA% of the hops you're using. You can find a good one at grumpys.com.au, then click on the 'calculators link. You'll be boiling for an hour and shooting for around 20 IBU's [mid-range bitterness, the flavouring addition will add to this slightly as well]. Once the water/malt mix starts boiling let it back to a gentle, rolling boil and throw your bittering hops in.

Next thing you'll need are flavour hops. I'd go Cluster as mates who like Tooheys and other commercial beers seem to like the flavour of them - they're a generally unoffensive hop in my opinion. Throw in around 20g worth somewhere around 40 to 45 minutes after you've added the POR.

15 minutes after this you'll need to chuck in your aroma hops - another 20g of Cluster will be fine for this. Take the pot off the boil at this point and put it in a sink full of cold water to cool it. Ice cubes or frozen water bottles will be good for crash cooling the pot.

When cool throw the lot into a fermenter and top with water to 22-23L. Take an SG reading if you are so inclined and add your yeast [which you should have rehydrated in a glass of water with a bit of malt while you were doing your boil]. Top the thing and wait for a few weeks, and BINGO! You're done.

Cheers - boingk

EDIT: You'll be at around 1.045 for your SG, and the FG should be around 1.012ish. This will give you a 5% for the brew as out of the fermenter, and around 5.3% once carbonation sugar taken into account.
 
awsome thanks for the replies, especially yours boingk was very helpfull. Just in interest, whats the general ratio in terms of dry and liquid malt. Say i was to use 3 kg of dry and 3kg of liquid, what should i expect?
Cheers
 
liquid is 20% water (if i remember correctly) so say you were using 3kg liquid, you would only need 2.4kg of dried ME (80%). Ive only used liquid so far, but i keep hearing of more and more people that use dried with the same results, which is much cheaper then using liquid (and alot easier to measure out smaller quantities!


Sponge
 
Gday all,
im wanting to brew by replacing the 1kg of "sugars" in the K&K. What im trying to do is make my own brew with hops and using a quantity of LME (unhopped) as a base, and proberly steep some grain as well, so my question is what LME is best to use for this purpose (ie morgans unhopped extract, master blend etc) for the base recipe and what effect will it have on the final outcome from using say 2 cans of unhopped extract ie Darker?

Regards
Timmo
 
It was always my preference to use plain light extract, black rock, coopers, store brand, whatever, and get all my colour and flavour from steeping grains, or sometimes Morgans blends.
This way you can be sure of what is going in and have more control over the final flavour and make up of the beer.
 

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