Distilled Water's The Same As Demineralised Right?

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Jez

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Hi all,

I recently got a 2nd hand refractometer from ebay and while testing it with my latest batch it gave me a FG of 1.020 while my trusty hydrometer gave me 1.010 <_<

I'm assuming it just needs to be recalibrated so I went out this morning to get some distilled water to do so. However all I could find was "demineralised water".

Distilled water and demineralised water are the same - right?

Jez
 
.....or close enough for my purposes?
 
BTW Jez. Call me a Phillistine. I just calibrate mine with plain old tap water. Shock-horror. :eek: :ph34r:

Warren -
 
Definately the same, but, iirc, without some serious tweaking, you cannot use a refractometer on fermented beer.

Well, someone is bound to get picky, yes you can use it, but the important thing to be aware of is that it will not read in the same approximate ratio of 4:1 to your hydrometer, as it does with unfermented wort.

Tap water will give you 0 on your refractometer, so save the $$ for something more useful.


dreamboat
 
4 replies in 8 minutes!

Everyone must be on a go-slow at work today....


dreamboat
 
i just turned on the kettle and collected some steam(condensation drops) on a spoon and used this for calibration.

cheers
big d

and its cheap and easy
 
Work - what's that?
 
thanks everyone.

wish I'd posted this BEFORE I went out & blew my hardearned...

oh well.
 
Jez, Beersmith and i believe Promash both have seperate calculations for working out the SG with a refrac... for: OG, fermenting wort and FG.
check them out.
KoNG
 
It is important you realise the benefits and limitations of both instruments.

A hydrometer measures the density of a solution. A refractometer measures the refractive index.

At the start of fermentation, the wort is a solution of saacharides (complex wort sugars) and water. After fermentation commences, there is less sachaarides, ethanol and water. Ethanol is less dense than water, so a hydrometer is not very effective at trying to make an effective measurement of two fluids that are effecting the hydrometer in different ways. The ethanol is making the hydrometer sink, the dissolved sachaarides is making it float. This sg reading is known as the apparent attenuation.

The refractometer will show a much higher brix as it is not affected in the same way as the hydrometer by the ethanol. It shows the real attenuation.

For example, at the start of fermentation, sg on the hydrometer is 1.050, the refractometer shows 12.5 brix. Everyone is happy as we know that 1 brix is equivalent to 4 sg points.

At the end of fermentation, the hydrometer shows 1.010, which equates to 80% apparent attenuation. The refractometer shows 5 brix, which gives the real attenuation of 60%.

It is then that you realise that the hydrometer is not very good at showing what is really happening in the finished beer. There is alot more unfermented material in beer, and the balance between malt flavours, hops and alcohol takes on a new angle.

Any instrument is only as good as its last calibration. You may find that if you use it regularly, the calibration doesn't change much. If you only pull it out every blue moon, the ambient temperature may have changed and a calibration is due.

Follow big d's suggestion of condensed steam. I use some of the water that collects under the lid of the kettle.

So that you become familiar with the use of your refractometer and so you can relate it back to your old sg readings, do regular calibrations and side by side readings with both the hydrometer and the refractometer. You will quickly become happy with your shiney refractometer.
 
Cheers POL for that dissection of refractometers vs hydrometers! It certainly answered a lot of questions I have had about both technologies
 
Thanks POL. Answered questions I didn't even know I had.....

Jez
 
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