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i looked around a bit on the forum to see if there were any topics of people who haven't bought anything yet or have just started researching the whole brewing your own beer topic, but came up short. so anyway in the near future i would like to start brewing but as the topic stated i haven't a clue where to start.

i'm looking for recommendations on needed equipment, if possible estimated costs, and whats a good place to start.
 
i'm looking for recommendations on needed equipment, if possible estimated costs, and whats a good place to start.

Best thing to do is fill in your location(geographically) and some one will recommend a good HB shop in your area.
 
I am with Brau/Bond...
Also state if you interested in Kits or extract or grain brewing.
Goggle john Palmer How to brew beer.
then get to it.
try asking specific questions and it will make it easier to respond.
cheers
the more the merrier
 
I am with Brau/Bond...
Also state if you interested in Kits or extract or grain brewing.
Goggle john Palmer How to brew beer.
then get to it.
try asking specific questions and it will make it easier to respond.
cheers
the more the merrier


i am around the Washington D.C. area

but i guess more specifically what do i need to buy to get this thing up and running. i guess kits would be the logical first step. do they have all the equipment items nessecary to brew or is it just a mix of hops/yeast and what have you to add to the equipment i should already have. thats where things get fuzzy for me. i need a therm/hydrometer something to boil all the ingrediants together and a few other tools that i read. is there any place online thats a good place to buy a set of all that stuff or what have you? and are all hydrometers/airlocks and the such created equal? id like to buy something that will acutally work and work for a while as opposed to something cheap that i'll have to replace in a few months.

* a 20 qt. brew pot (large canning pot)
* large stirring spoon (non-wood)
* ordinary table spoon
* measuring cup (preferably Pyrex glass)
* glass jar (at least 12 oz)
* fermentor (food-grade plastic bucket or glass carboy)
* airlock (get from homebrew shop)
* sanitizer (chlorine bleach or other)
* thermometer (optional)

thats the list off palmers site i have a budget of roughly 200 dollars to spend on tools and equipment to get this going if that helps at all as well. anything you can recommend, or is it a situation where most anything i can find will be good to go.
 
i am around the Washington D.C. area

but i guess more specifically what do i need to buy to get this thing up and running. i guess kits would be the logical first step. do they have all the equipment items nessecary to brew or is it just a mix of hops/yeast and what have you to add to the equipment i should already have. thats where things get fuzzy for me. i need a therm/hydrometer something to boil all the ingrediants together and a few other tools that i read. is there any place online thats a good place to buy a set of all that stuff or what have you?

Most decent homebrew shops would have a complete starter kit (dunno about the $US cost... $50-80?), and should be happy to run you through the basics. Kits are very easy and there's heaps of types. Just a pour, mix, wait and bottle method. When you feel confident enough you can then move onto different hops,grains and yeasts. Good luck. :beer:
 
i am around the Washington D.C. area

but i guess more specifically what do i need to buy to get this thing up and running. i guess kits would be the logical first step. do they have all the equipment items nessecary to brew or is it just a mix of hops/yeast and what have you to add to the equipment i should already have. thats where things get fuzzy for me. i need a therm/hydrometer something to boil all the ingrediants together and a few other tools that i read. is there any place online thats a good place to buy a set of all that stuff or what have you?



As much as we will try to help you, we aren't necessarily the best forum for your starter questions.

This an Australian forum so we aren't going to be to up to date on Washington home brew stores.

I would suggest the homebrew forum of beeradvocate or search for northern brewer I think it is that also has a good forum.

This is a good beginner info site too... Bodensatz

There is another main US forum some of the guys here visit but I can't remember it...


But please don't stay away from talking home brew with us!! Just that you might want to go more local for your startup info...

Also I believe from readings that the basic level in the US is a lot different to here. Many stores in the US sell "kits" which are for making types of beers and contain extract, grain and hops all ready for use, whereas starters here in Australia generally start with premade cans, which are inferior in my opinion.
 
As much as we will try to help you, we aren't necessarily the best forum for your starter questions.

This an Australian forum so we aren't going to be to up to date on Washington home brew stores.

I would suggest the homebrew forum of beeradvocate or search for northern brewer I think it is that also has a good forum.

This is a good beginner info site too... Bodensatz

There is another main US forum some of the guys here visit but I can't remember it...
But please don't stay away from talking home brew with us!! Just that you might want to go more local for your startup info...

Also I believe from readings that the basic level in the US is a lot different to here. Many stores in the US sell "kits" which are for making types of beers and contain extract, grain and hops all ready for use, whereas starters here in Australia generally start with premade cans, which are inferior in my opinion.


awesome, thanks a lot the beer advocate site has been really helpful already. and i understand that its a Aussie forum but i figured brewing was more or less a global thing in terms of homebrew equipment used and alot of the folk here seem to be more then knowledgeable on the topic. now with that said i may disappear from the forum for a bit after the next day or two until i can get this thing going, then i can talk home brew a little better.

(not only that, but in terms of beer, ive always perfered the beer i've had outside the states, which is partly the reason i wanted to brew my own)
 
awesome, thanks a lot the beer advocate site has been really helpful already. and i understand that its a Aussie forum but i figured brewing was more or less a global thing in terms of homebrew equipment used and alot of the folk here seem to be more then knowledgeable on the topic. now with that said i may disappear from the forum for a bit after the next day or two until i can get this thing going, then i can talk home brew a little better.

(not only that, but in terms of beer, ive always perfered the beer i've had outside the states, which is partly the reason i wanted to brew my own)

We can definitely talk about the type of equipment you'll need, just not so much where to get it.

You might find some confusion between what we call a 'kit' and what your HBS calls a 'kit' though. As I said, that's my impression from the time on BA and other forums and things I've read.

Extract brewing, which appears to be quite common in the US, is not so common here, people tend to jump from kits to AG more so. I spent a lot of time using extract so I can give you a nice guide for once you get set up, which I posted here (not sure why the search returned the low res version but there you go...) It doesn't really get into fermenters and temp control etc. though...

The bodensatz site is excellent and is where I learnt a lot from reading...
 
I don't know if the large department stores like KMART, Target or Wal-mart stock starter kits like they do here in Australia. If so they have the basics to get you going including a fermenter, hydrometer, stirring spoon, (bottles if you get a coopers brand starter kit) + a tin of concentrate to make your 1st kit & kilo batch. Have a look in those type shops cause the basic parts can be easily added to as you progress.

You should also check out the following US sites for equipment & info:

MoreBeer have starter kits & lso great into info in their downloadable catalogue here

Northernbrewer also have starter kits & a catalogue

Both sites have discussion forums as well.

One thing to note is that in Australia most brewers use plastic drums or buckets for fermenters while in the US glass "carboys" are common. Without getting into an off topic "discussion" :ph34r: on the pros/cons of each, be aware that carboys will cost you more & be less forgiving. I raise this cause if you are on a budget, you might be better to start with plastic & use the saved $$ for ingredients or other components such as a decent size kettle & a "turkey burner" (commonly called aa NASA here) :D

I agree with the comment re getting Palmers how to brew. Excellent info - even if you use the online version.

Here are my thoughts on your list:
* a 20 qt. brew pot (large canning pot) - A big pot is essential for extract & allgrain brewing. I'd suggest you go for something which is 7-10 gallons to start cause a regular batch is 5 gallons.
* large stirring spoon (non-wood) - I use a long handled plastic spoon & a beech mash paddle (bought cheaply from a catering supplies). The plastic 1 isn't really up to coping with a thick mash.
* ordinary table spoon - not necessary - you can grab one from the kitchen if you do need 1 urgently
* measuring cup (preferably Pyrex glass) - I use a plastic 2litre jug all the time & have just bought a 5litre job.
* glass jar (at least 12 oz) - not sure what this is for - maybe culturing yeast? However I'd say it isn't necessary to get started
* fermentor (food-grade plastic bucket or glass carboy) - essential - refer to comments above
* airlock (get from homebrew shop) - you can also make up a "blow off' tube somply by putting a length of hose into the grommet on the top of the fermenter into a jar of boiled water/sanitiser solution
* sanitizer (chlorine bleach or other) - do a search here for sanitiser, bleach is cheap, but you have to rinse it. Many brewers use "no rinse sanitisers" such as iodorphor or peracetic acid. Sanitation is I believe THE most important thing in brewing.
* thermometer (optional) - I reckon its essential. If you are mashing, you will use it to test your strike water temp as well as your mash temp. Don't forget to calibrate it so you know how accurate it is. You will also want to know what temp your fermetner is at (the stick on strips are cheap & reasonably accurate to start with.

You might like to also consider a burner cause if you're married (or have a live in girlfriend), she will most likely not appreciate the kitchen smelling of malt & hops after you brew on the stove (speaking from experience here) B).

Many things can be cheaply made yourself eg a mash tun. There is a lot of info here, on other forums & web sites about how to make your brewery equipment. If you are going to do a full boil (& why wouldn't you ;) ) you will need to determine how tol chill the wort. Most of the world use immersion or counter flow chillers (an extra cost when starting out), but many here in Australia, myself included, are using the "no chill" method. This simply involves rumming the wort into a "cube" post boil while it is still really hot & leaving it for a day or longer to cool naturally prior to fermetning. Do a search for it on this site - but be prepared for a long read!

Also do a search here for "brew in a bag" or BIAB as it is known. It is a cheap & easy way to start all grain brewing without all the equipmnet. Pistolpatch & a few other guys have done great work on working it out.

See if there is a brew club in your area, hook up with them & you might even be given equipment which members don't use anymore. Find a local club by checking out Beertown which has a list of clubs & home brew shops in the US. Checkout the big brewday sites while you're there & you may find some people close to you.

happy brewing

Crozdog
 
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