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Some months back I asked for some advice on some potential breweries/brewpubs and bars to visit through the US and Canada, to which I got plenty of good advice. And while I didnt get to go to all of them, cos I wasnt able to visit everywhere in the US and Canada in such a limited timeframe, and the fact that I was in fact a we, inasmuch as the trip was a honeymoon.

And so it is with much thanks to TDA, Trent, Malnourished and Sosman for their input. I did my best to get to some places, but there is so much beer to get through, and only so many places you can accidentally come across before SWMBO gets suspicious that youre leading her on an organised tour. ;)

And so a summary version of tasting delights, taken from my tour diary. Note that Im still trying to get my head around labelling aroma and taste, so my comments on colour, carbonation and head retention are limited, and I only really notice them if theyre not what I expect (eg an off colour or cloudiness in a non-wheat, a gusher or flat as a tack).

Hawaii
Kona Brewing Big Wave Golden Ale Golden colour, so they got that bit right. Almost looks a bit cloudy, but not bottle conditioned. Nose is middle of the road but clean nothing overly flowery or fruity. Taste is also clean, right across the palate, not too malty or hoppy. Stupid as it sounds it has got some complexity in the profile, but its still simple enough that you can pick the hop and malt. 7/10

Kona Brewing Fire Rock Pale Ale Orange to the point of looking like a Fanta, but with a wheat sized head. Smell of citrus that makes me think its probably straight Cascade, but nothing OTT. Body has a bit of depth to it, bit of sweetness (caramel-esque), with medium hoppy citrus, bitterness on back of palate. I like the balance on this. 7/10

Mehana Mauna Kea Pale Ale Mild aroma of citrus and maybe pine. Lighter, thinner body, not much malt to it. Im guessing that the hops were mainly used for the bittering here, cos it finishes fairly bitter. Clean, and pleasant, but trending towards megaswill in its blandness. You know what I mean like an EB IBU rating, with some nice fresh aroma and an inkling that there is a bit of malt you can almost taste somewhere in there. 5/10


LA
The 4 Points Airport Sheraton actually has a great range of beer at their hotel pub called TH Brewsters. I destroyed my taste buds with a good session of hoppy beers

SNPA its in the bottle, but I see it, and cant wait til I get it on tap to try it. Wont bother with a review because everyone here ahs seen and read a thousand of them, but my impression? Its smoother than LCPA, Id call it less carbonated and a rounder mouthfeel, but it doesnt have the nose that LCPA, even comparing bottle with bottle. Cascade taste is certainly prominent, but not the grapefruityness from the LCPA. 9/10

Firestone Double Barrel Amber an oak conditioned (60L barrels) beer. Not much on the nose except the oak. There is a nice amber malt backbone that runs the length of the palate, but for mine, the oaking throws the balance too far out. The hops are barely discernible. Having recently been given a beer engine, Ive been considering doing some barrel/cask conditioning, but if this is how far out of whack it takes the beer, I may have to reconsider. Its probably worth noting that Im a bit biased with my review here, because oaked Chardonnay shits me off, and it was certainly an impression with this one a Chardonnay made with malt. Also, I should remind myself to drink up the bitterness scale I had tried 2 SNPA before this, which probably didnt help with me picking any hops on the palate. 6.5/10

Bear Republic Racer 5 IPA holy smokes, this is my first aggressively hopped beer, and it really is a prominent taste. From the top then, it looks and pours like a pale ale, it jumps up my nose and announces that it has arrived, suggesting no uncertain terms that some pine with a bit of citrus is there to take up residence. Bit thicker mouthfeel than some of the Oz IPAs Ive tried, and the hops thunder on in to my mouth with some sweet malt marching not quite side by side down my palate, but only a few steps behind. Ill admit that it is a nicely balanced beer certainly aggressive, but not overpowering, and Im confident that its not my idea of a session beer. Its at this point that I can feel my tastebuds starting to cringe from the bitterness and hop burn. 7/10

Stone Arrogant ******* Ale
In retrospect, its a big bottle (22 oz) to finish the night on will store that in the Things Not To Do list for next time. This beer is hopped so heavy, it smells like bleach when you open it. When I try a sniff from a distance, its piney, but up close, its just trying to open my sinuses with its sheer intensity, like a finger covered with Vicks. Head retention was practically zip, settled very quickly, almost like the hops were scaring the CO2 out. Thick body trending towards syrupy, which is a first in a non-stout for me (I later come to find this character more clearly shown in barleywines). My palate immediately finds the bitterness, which the beer has down pat as many IBU as you can pack in I suspect. But the hop overload just throws the balance right out, Im sure there was malt in there somewhere the colour suggested it was there, but stuffed if I could detect it. Real bitter pine bite at back of palate. Ive heard a lot of folks talk about how much they like the Stone beers, but for me and my now clearly curling up and dying tastebuds, this is just too much its like a novelty factor; I drank Arrogant *******. 5/10

*Oh yeah, and the ******* gave me some real acidity problems the next morning. Never had to have an antacid in my life before, but it went down a treat when I got up a mere 5 hours later. Thinking Ill have to toughen up real quick, or this trip will do my stomach and my liver in in one foul swoop. :eek:
 
Next night its off to Santa Monica to visit Fathers Office. Tiny place, great draught selection, and I really like the wallotaps. Staff wouldnt let me take a beer menu though, so I have to make do with some scratchings on back of a few napkins, which get more indiscernible as the evening wore on.

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SNPA (draught) well, I just had to have it to compare, didnt I? And it is good, really nice, but as smooth and rounded as it is, I think I like LCPA better. Just seems to be more depth/complexity with the hops. I think I just like the rawer, less smoothed around the edges hop tastes. Ive decide its a good thing my tastebuds swing this way, because living in Freo, LCPA is certainly more available, and a good deal cheaper.

AleSmith X (draught) Nice strong floral/citrus aroma from Cascade that seem to typify a lot of these Cali micro APAs. Medium mouthfeel, not as rounded because of the hoppy acidity and a bit of carbonation, with a good smack of bitterness, but you can actually taste a malt structure that sits on both front and back of palate, some sweet, some more toasted/biscuity. Good balanced APA one of my faves .8/10

Anchor Liberty Ale as one of the trademark US beers, I cant go past trying this off the tap. Trending towards orangeish colour. Maltier nose than I have been coming across, but the hops are there, nothing obvious I can put my finger on though. Light on palate, a bit of grassiness, that becomes more bitter by the gullet, but its the malt that is the big brother taking the lead here. Crisper finish than I was expecting. 6/10

Firestone Pale Ale a foray back into the world of Firestone to sample one of their non-oaked beers, and am pleasantly surprised. The aroma is different from the other APAs Ive had right off the bat there is definitely some fruit there, and certainly no pine reaching bleach status. Malt is there but not prominent, just adding a bit of sweetness to the fruityness. Im thinking maybe dried apricots. It could be that its the first beer Ive had here that has a discernible yeast influence on palate? If not, Im gonna get me some of these hops, cos this is an interesting pale. 7/10

Tuppers Hop Pocket Ale Grapefruit and grass up the old schnozz on this, and you can taste them both over the top of a medium body that manages to be both sweet but dry. Medium bitterness throughout to dry finish. 7/10

? Belgian Ale I recall the barstaff telling me this was from a Santa Monica micro, the name of whom I now cant remember, and cant decipher from the napkin, but I can get the following from the notes (through the beer bled ink). A nice wit style, same nose as a Hoegaarden clone, suspect Wyeast 3944 used in this one, although its darker in colour, and seems to be maybe less wheat on the palate too. 7.5/10

*Ended up being a costly night though while speaking with some locals, one of them felt it was incumbent upon them to provide directions for my beloved to some key shopping areas in the county. Need I say more.*
 
Back to TH Brewsters
Old Rasputin Imperial stout (draught) a bitter stout, can pick a fair bit of dark roasted malty in the grain bill. Very smooth head, with tight bubble. Pours similar to a Guinness, with the reverse settle. Aroma is both coffee and fruit does that sound weird? Thick in the drinking. The bitterness of the dark malts and the hops (not that you can pick them on the nose) really masks the higher alcohol content youd be hard pressed to pick this as an Imperial (8.9%). 2 pints though, and it felt like it. 7.5/10


Vegas
Whatever I could get my hands on here seems to be a lot of barpersons encouraging me to have a Fosters because Im Australian. Sadly, Vegas is largely from the bottle.

Samuel Adams Boston Lager the ubiquitous Sam Adams is a bit of a godsend amongst all the Bud and Millers. Not really what Id call an exciting brew, but it holds good malt throughout and if I brewed it at home, Id be more than happy with my form. 6.5/10

Chicago Brewing Co Red Rocket Ale (draught) so excited about actually winning at poker in Fremont St, I forget to take notes on the beer. I eventually retired from the table feeling most happy with myself and watch SWMBO on the roulette table over another pint or two, only to discover that Ive been drinking a very palatable red ale, along the Irish red type style. Biscuity type malts is what I get, and nice length on the malt all the way down the back of the throat (or so I typed into my phone so Id remember it later sounds a bit wanky to me, must have had too much of it). 7/10?

Chico, CA
The trip to Sierra Nevada. It took quite a bit to convince my erstwhile travelling partner that the best thing we could do for 14 hours is drive well out of our way to a brewery, particularly when the bulk of the drive falls on our first wedding anniversary. But bless her cottons, she did it. I drive through the Mojave Desert alternating between trying not to sideswipe cars and drooling over the prospect of the brewery ahead of us. And so it is that we arrive around 1pm, opening the car door to the smell of boiling malt and hops, and I feel alive. I half run, half skip around the brewery, eyeing off the huge coppers and beautiful SS beer porn. I marvel as the brewer pours bucket after bucket of hops into a huge copper at rolling boil.

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Next stop is the store, and I have to be dragged out after buying too much (eg t-shirt, bar towel, a tap handle, a stubby holder, a deck of playing cards). Im eyeing off a SN poker set ruefully, but the War Office advises that $400US is just too much to justify. My thoughts about more tap handle, steins, wall signs etc meet a similar fate. I get the feeling Im pushing it as much as I should, so I let this one through to the keeper, because its off to the tasting room.

My beloved is hungry, but I dont care if I dont eat for the next week, Im going to the tasting room, to do the whole range off the tap. The door handle doesnt seem to work though. Slight problem. As my world comes crashing down around me, my eyes see the sign, CLOSED. Now, when I was doing the planning for this trip, I checked this, and Id just about bet my lefty that SN were open 7 days, but here we are, closed on a Monday. I mean, I even changed the order of a few cities around to lock this one in I even had to sacrifice a day driving south from LA to visit Stone to get this one in. But there you go. Murphy travels with you.

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So what do you do when youve travelled to the other side of the world with one must-see brewery in mind? You beg. You play the Oz card for all its worth, cos who knows when youll be back, and if Im going to taste the seasonals off tap (or Bigfoot for that matter), heres where it has to be. Sadly though, theres nothing for it. The staff in the gift shop claim not to have the keys to the tasting room, so thats that. I purchase a 6 pack of freshly bottled stubbies to drink later, but its not really the same.

I kick the tyres on the car and get back in. Whoopee. More driving. Its about 3 hours into the drive before I start to see some humour in the situation. Theres a bit of something close to irony in there maybe I should call Alanis.

Fat Tire Belgian Amber a well-respected CA micro according to a few people Ive spoken to, and the Fat Tire has yeast contributing esters (I think?) to the aroma. Bit of hop there but nowhere near as pronounced as the APAs. Thin body with a different malt structure than Im used to with for a Belgian a real bready taste that doesnt diminish over the palate, its there with the yeast to the end. Not really bitter, but Id say maybe tart some of the same effect as Kriek, but without the fruit. I liked it, the Belgian styles have so much variety, and its nice to drink some variety. 8/10

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*The Lost Days come down with a headcold which really puts paid to my tasting for a few days. Think I can hear my liver cheering, because my wife likes her wine, so Ive been tasting a fair bit of Napa and Sonoma over the last week and a bit too.*
 
Vancouver
Granville Island Palomino Honey Wheat Ale/Lager dont ask why they call it an ale/lager, the staff in the bar Granville brew it exclusively for cant help you either. Maybe its primary brewed with an ale yeast and a lager yeast in secondary? There isnt anything in the palate that gives you much of a clue, but it is tasty, and really close to a Beez Neez . 7/10

Moxies Grasshopper Wheat its not advertised as a honey wheat, but it sure tastes like one, but with a really light malt structure. Probably not all that much wheat, certainly not much hopping in either bitterness or aroma. 5/10

Okanagan Spring Extra Special Pale Ale
Nothing Extra Special here. A bit of malt on the nose, towards the fruity end of the spectrum, bugger all hops. Thin is a generous description, it tastes like those watery non-alcohol beers, but with a POR style bittering finish. 4/10

Okanagan Springs 1516 Bavarian Lager
Teensy-weensy malt and hop aroma, a bit bready, but just a bit. Thin body, bit of hop on front of palate, but malt prominent towards the back. In fact, youre not sure you were actually drinking by the time it reaches your throat, it disappear so quick. I admit disappointment at this one the name evoked thoughts of complexity, but this is meat and potatoes K&K type stuff. 4/10

Shaftebury Coastal Cream Ale
Dark brown colour, reasonably heavily carbonated for an ale, smells like malt, tastes like malt, a bit tannic like tea instead of real bitterness. Certainly not as good as BC locals try to tell me it is, but I figure its a fair trade they get to live somewhere as jaw-droppingly beautiful as this, we get tastebuds. 5/10

Shaftebury Easy Honey Pale Ale
More like Easy to Make. All I can say is its thin, made from pale malt, smells like someone wafted honey around the neck, tastes sweet like its underattenauted, but no real honey to it. Yawn. 4.5/10


Granville Island Brewery another misadventure; with not much to do in the arvo of New Years Eve, we wander down with some friends to Granville Island, where I am keen to try a few of the brews. We do the markets, the shopping, the touristy crap until the thirst quotient reaches breaking point at 4:10 and I suggest we retire for a refreshing pint. Or two. We arrive, only to find that the one day a year Granville dont open is New Years Eve after 4pm, as opposed to their usual late night closes. Beginning to suspect someone, somewhere is secretly taping this and laughing. We o t a bar across the road, which has Granville beers on tap. My beloved and friends try to convince me this is just the same as being in the brewery. I hope you folks understand, but its not. Youre not smelling the brews, seeing the shiny stuff

Granville Island IPA Mild citrus/floral hop aroma, into the gob finds a thicker and rounder mouthfeel than expected, like a half drunk glass left out overnight at the end of a party. But then its like your saliva tells it to stop acting like a flat beer and get off its arse; all of a sudden you think, oh, hang on, it is carbonated. Clever trick. Once in the mouth, its sweet (but not cloying sweet) and then motors on to the back of your mouth drives with a bitter aftertaste that finishes dry. 7.5/10

Granville Island Island Lager Light grassy hop aroma, thinnish, a bit sweet. Lawnmower would be a good description. 6.5/10


Family for Chrissy in BC
They love Yellowtail Chardonnay, which they wholeheartedly believe is one of Australias greatest exports. Its not, its cat piss. I cant believe we get away with exporting so much of our shite. I had to surreptitiously chuck it down the drain and open a bottle of something else. Anyone else tried it?

Couple of big nights on generics with SWMBOs uncle, ending with us getting told to go to bed at 5 in the morning, because we were drunk, disgusting, and listening to old music too loud. That being said, Labatts isnt too bad for a get it down quickly beer. I think it was partly a function of it being so cold we just left them out on the back verandah, and lo and behold beer at 1-2 degrees. That never ceased to entertain me no beer fridge required!

SN Porter An aroma that casually says hi, Im Mr Hop, and let me introduce you to my friends chocolate and coffee. Dunno if Im crazy, but I wouldnt be surprised to find SN use Cascade I everything they brew. Medium body, medium bitterness that I think are as much to do with the roasted malts as the hops. 6.5/10

SN Stout Smells like Cascade again, but with a sharpness from the roasted malts. Medium body thats a bit creamy, with a bit of coffee to start with and high % cocoa chocolate bitter/sweetness at the finish. The Cascade gallops along the whole length too. Its balanced, and while hoppier than Im used to with a stout, pretty good. 6.5/10

SN Wheat Not much on the nose, but a bitocitrus. Its low carbed and watery thin for a wheat, tasting like wheat with a bit of orange, a bit of honey and a bit of banana. Clean and easy to drink, but not very exciting. Sort of like a hand shandy on your wedding night, pleasant, but not as exciting as what you had in mind. 6/10

SN Celebration Ale Cherry red vs amber colour, with a head that lingers for a few moments around the rim of the glass, then sods off. Lift it to my nose and whaddaya know, theres Cascade, something sweet, and almost a bit of wine. A big bodied mouthfeel starts with some bitterness from the hops, smoothes out across the tongue like a coating of grease from battered fish (without the fish taste of course, or for those who cant wrap their heads around that like the buttery bit of an oaked chardonnay), moves to some raisins/currants fighting with diminishing hop bitterness, to finish cleaner and earthier. The malt wants to come through, but I only got glimpses of it. Seems like SN tried to stuff a lot into this one, and consequently, not as balanced as it seems. Could have been a real Christmas Pud type taste, but the hops dominate it. 6.5/10
 
Miami
Didnt actually drink much beer in the couple of days we were here Yuengling because there were specials on because of some college football game, and some Caribbean ones that werent really worth remembering, but other than that, I decided to make the most of the warmth after BC, kicked it into tropical gear and dominated anything with rum in it instead. Geez mojitos are good.

Yuengling Traditional Lager there is a bit of malt and hop in the aroma, but nothing that announces itself. Not harsh on the palate at all, with the malt being joined by some generic hop flavour to give you a clean finish (now wheres that Bacardi?). 5/10


Washington DC
Foggy Bottom Ale Citrus and pine on the nose is what Im coming to expect from the APA, the barman tells me they dry hop this one, so the intensity is no surprise. Thin to medium body, with sweet caramel and a bit of biscuit taste from the malt, that with the hops finishing with a nice strong bitterness that hangs around for a bit, then fades. Pretty smooth little drop. 8/10

The Brickskeller. I liked this place so much Id move to DC just so I could go there. How can you not like a place that guarantees to have over 1,000 beers available for you at any one time? They (not surprisingly) hold the Guinness World Record for most commercial beers available. They only have a dozen taps, so you have a daily tap list, which list two different kegs per tap for the limited release brews. But they also have a beer menu (pdf attached sorry about the size, but I guess youd want to be able to read it) which offers too much choice. In the end, I just decided to work my way through the taps. Ive included some of the %alc with these ones it was a heavy session

(Menu from heaven)
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SNPA Fresh Harvest O good fortune to be here on the day they have the remainder of a wet hop SNPA keg. Almost makes up for the fuckers being closed at the brewery. Almost. You can sure smell the difference; its the SNPA on roids, with big, big citrus hoppiness that smells green like its just come off the vine. On the palate, its pretty much the same as a regular SNPA, but the hops just have more zing (like chewing on some dried mint leaves compared to fresh ones) that sort of sits over the top of the rounded mouthfeel of the SNPA. 9.5/10

Anchor Our Special Ale 04 There is some citrus wandering up my nostrils, but Im not sure if its Cascade or some kind of peel in the brew, given that its a Chrissy brew. Its probably Cascade were in the US of A after all. I think I get cinnamon and nutmeg over the malt too. Medium body, heading towards a nectar type consistency, you can taste the bittering the length of the beer, a rounded mouthfeel that has maybe clove and cigar with it, finishes bitter, possibly some dark roasted malt. 8/10

Gouden Carolus Noel (10.5%) Dark amber/mahagony colour and a fair sized frothy tan head. The nose has got a bit of everything, I thin theres some cookie dough and bubblegum from the yeast, some caramel and nuts from the malt, and a bit of herby perfumey something from the hops. Could be the alcohol giving it the perfume? Its a big smooth, creamy mouthfeel, immediately warmed from the alcohol, sweet in a brown sugary kind of way, lightly bittered maybe herbs through that giving it a fennel or aniseed tinge. The alcohol adds a real port style warmth, theres medium carbonation, which is more than I was expecting, finishing reasonably dry considering all the sweet flavour. A lot packed in and a pretty impressive job in balancing it all out. 9/10

Anchor Old Foghorn Barleywine 05 (9%) A clear deep red/ruby colour with a thinnish head. Aroma suggests fruit, sweet malts, brown sugar and a decent whack of hops. Its thick and almost a bit syrupy, caramel type sweetness, a bit of that fruit (plum and sultana maybe?), malt for the length of it, noticeable alcohol in the mouth and a hop bite a the end. Hopped just enough to counter the sweetness of the malts, and finishes warm from the alcohol. 7/10

Very Bad Elf (7.5%) Smells a little fruity, caramel again and Hubba-bubba original. Thin to medium body, malt and honey, with a burnt/golden syrup type taste, sweet fruits and hop bitterness at the back of the palate. Sounds like a lot to it, but its the sharpness of the alcohol that dominates, the other flavours are fairly subdued in comparison. 5.5/10

Victory Hop Wallop (8.5%) Floral and grassy aroma is prominent, but not overpowering. Medium body with smooth mouthfeel, fruit through the mouth, finishing strongly with grapefruit bitterness. Despite not having a strong malt structure, hides the alcohol well. 7/10
 
New York
Blue Moon Brewing Co Belgian White What to say other than it looks like a wit cloudy, yellow, white head which settles pretty quickly. Smells like wheat, with clear bitter orange/coriander, and a touch of cloves. Tastes just like it smells and finishes sweet, with citrus bitterness. Id guess that it had a fair whack of wheat in the grain bill, its more prominent than in other wits. 7/10

Red Hook Ale Brewery IPA Strong aroma of pine and citrus, thin body for an IPA that starts dry and then the malt moves on in, a little bit of citrus character shines through, and it finishes with a strong lasting bitterness, but not as heavily bittered as most of these fearsome APA/IPA styles Ive been swilling. 7.5/10

Dogfish Head Raison DEtre Oh very droll little pun. The aroma not surprisingly, gives you a good firm whiff of raisin and dark sugar. You get a medium mouthfeel with some warmth from the alcohol (8%), and a smooth sweet malt/brown sugar taste with some hop bitterness sitting behind the malt. Nicely balanced, good length. The label tells you its brewed with Belgian sugars (aka candy sugar?), but I didnt find it prominent more a brown sugar taste. 8/10

Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA Strong fresh grassy hop aroma, with some citrus (grapefruit and pineapple) right up there with it. Body is lightish, but the bitterness of the hops kick straight in on the front of the palate and extend all the way back. Not overpoweringly hopped, the malt structure is there, but the hops draw the attention. I could neck a few of these, but not spend the afternoon on them still a bit heavy for a session beer for me.


Egypt
Well, it just serves me right for trying to drink in a Muslim country. There is beer available in hotels and restaurants, but you pay the price. At 28-40 Egyptian pounds, were coming in at about 7-10 Oz $ per stubbie, which is not cheap considering the price of everything else in Egypt. It is however, a fair price to pay when you consider your other options include Egyptian wine, which is unspeakably bad. I have every confidence that with some half fermented batch, crossed with unripe grape, a 12th generation yeast strain and an open bucket that had previously been used as a holding container for camel turds, I could brew a better wine than this. In February, in Perth, with no temp control. The whites in particular are staggeringly bad. Ive heard some wine wanker types describing the nose on some varieties as having kerosene type characters, but the Egyptians must be world leaders, because they can produce wine that accurately reflects the taste. Its enough to drive a Westerner of their booze, which upon reflection, is possibly the point.

Anyway, back on the beer train, they do locally brewed versions of Heineken and a couple of others, and make a few of their own like Sakkara Gold (more like lead) and Luxor (which sounds flash, but isnt). Another country, another generic tasting lager. But truth be told, we didnt really go to Egypt for the beer, for which Im grateful, because I would have been thoroughly disappointed

And that was the end of the trip, partly because of exhaustion, but mainly cos that was all the time I could get off work, and the money was running out at a rapid rate... All in all, great trip, and some fantastic beer memories :super:
 
Wow! So jealous. Thanks for reporting back!

I think I'm gonna have to use this one. Thanks :D
ant said:
there is so much beer to get through, and only so many places you can accidentally come across before SWMBO gets suspicious that youre leading her on an organised tour. ;)
 
Ant,

Great stuff mate, well done, what a trip that must have been. Didn't mind the Fat Tire when I was living in the US, can't wait to get back.

Cheers.
 
ant said:
Bear Republic Racer 5 IPA holy smokes, this is my first aggressively hopped beer, and it really is a prominent taste. From the top then, it looks and pours like a pale ale, it jumps up my nose and announces that it has arrived, suggesting no uncertain terms that some pine with a bit of citrus is there to take up residence. Bit thicker mouthfeel than some of the Oz IPAs Ive tried, and the hops thunder on in to my mouth with some sweet malt marching not quite side by side down my palate, but only a few steps behind. Ill admit that it is a nicely balanced beer certainly aggressive, but not overpowering, and Im confident that its not my idea of a session beer. Its at this point that I can feel my tastebuds starting to cringe from the bitterness and hop burn. 7/10

Stone Arrogant ******* Ale
In retrospect, its a big bottle (22 oz) to finish the night on will store that in the Things Not To Do list for next time. This beer is hopped so heavy, it smells like bleach when you open it. When I try a sniff from a distance, its piney, but up close, its just trying to open my sinuses with its sheer intensity, like a finger covered with Vicks. Head retention was practically zip, settled very quickly, almost like the hops were scaring the CO2 out. Thick body trending towards syrupy, which is a first in a non-stout for me (I later come to find this character more clearly shown in barleywines). My palate immediately finds the bitterness, which the beer has down pat as many IBU as you can pack in I suspect. But the hop overload just throws the balance right out, Im sure there was malt in there somewhere the colour suggested it was there, but stuffed if I could detect it. Real bitter pine bite at back of palate. Ive heard a lot of folks talk about how much they like the Stone beers, but for me and my now clearly curling up and dying tastebuds, this is just too much its like a novelty factor; I drank Arrogant *******. 5/10

*Oh yeah, and the ******* gave me some real acidity problems the next morning. Never had to have an antacid in my life before, but it went down a treat when I got up a mere 5 hours later. Thinking Ill have to toughen up real quick, or this trip will do my stomach and my liver in in one foul swoop. :eek:
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Ant,

Awesome review. Well it must of been because I actually read the entire post.

I was dissappointed a litte with the Arrogant *******. Maybe I'd been too keen to try it for so long. And i had it on tap at two different places.

The Racer 5 was very good. I enjoyed it more than the AB.

Pity you didn't find Pliny the Elder from Russian River. mmmmmmm.

Sounds like and awesome trip. I'm looking forward to getting back to the West Coast later this year for another round of Super Hoppy IPA's.

Beers,
DR
 

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