Hops In Esb Australian Draught?

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Hi, I was wondering what hops are use in the ESB Australian Draught, I used a homebrand lager with a 1.5 teaspoon of czech saaz with excellent results and was thinking of using the homebrand draught with some dark malt and whatever hops are in the ESB brand....

I am thinking it is either pride of ringwood, or brewers gold or hallertau, but would prefer not to guess.
 
You could give them a call. I found the ESB kits don't really need any extras. They normally have hops floating around in the can anyway.
 
Try 15 grams of Cluster simmered for 15min in 500ml of water with 50g of light dry malt (or a tablespoon of the kit). That'd get you in the right direction.

Cheers - boingk
 
Hi Damian, I am not looking to add to the ESB, i am looking to improve a homebrand kit. with a few bucks of extra additives.

Thanks for your input boingk. I found them in this chart I located online.. http://www.brewsupplies.com/hops_reference_chart.htm Ill give it a go. does the simmering of the hops get the oils out of the hop pellets/flowers? I usually just chuck them in the hot water with the liquid malt.
 
Ah-ha! I've been doing a Homebrand experiment with the last few brews, just waiting on them to get to my minimum 2-week test date so I can try a few.

Hops can give certain qualities depending on what you do with them. Boiling will give bitterness only at over 40 minutes, mostly flavour (with mild bitterness) at 15 minutes, and mostly aroma at 5 minutes. Using hops without boiling is best done after the 4th day of fermentation by throwing them into the brew dry, and is (not surprisingly) known as dry hopping. This gives excellent aroma and often a quite fresh hop quality to the brew. The reason its done so late is that otherwise carbon dioxide given off by fermentation will rob the hops of their alpha acids, thus rendering the hops less noticable in the final beer.

Boiling the hops is best done in 100g of malt per litre of water to aid the extraction of the essential oils (alpha acids). I generally add my dry ingredients to the fermenter and then ditch the boiled liquid straight in to dissolve them.

So a boil of 40 plus for bitterness, 15 for flavour and 5 for aroma. Dry hop for a stand-out quality and great aroma. I'd use 15g of hops in a 15 minute boil to start with so you can get used to the effect they have. After that modify and use different methods, but use the stock 15g starting point for each new technique so you can get used to the effect.

Cheers mate - boingk

PS: There are a lot better reference charts around, see the site supporters in the top banner for some info. For example, Cluster is a good bittering and flavouring hop, and while traditionally used in American ales, it is also a hop widely used in the Australian beer industry. XXXX is hopped with Cluster, as is Tooheys New I suspect.
 
Mate that is the best explanation of using hops I have ever read, I have copied that to a notepad and saved it. Thankyou very much. and I will try that cluster hop @ 15 mins.
 
When I worked at ESB the Aussie Draught typically used POR pellets unless we substituted ;)
 
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