Chinook: Appropriate Styles

[manticle]

Thanks to the kindness of Gilbrew I got about 50g of fresh Chinook flowers recently. I passed the kindness onto someone else (in return for them letting me taste a few of their AG brews) so now I have about half that.

I've never used fresh hops before and it makes sense to me to use them as aroma or late. I want to do them justice too (particularly as I'll be sending Gilbrew a bottle and I aim not to disappoint).

I am about to put on a double batch of an amber ale (partial) and was initially considering using them for that but since the amber will be bittered with fuggles for an English style, I have a feeling the brew may not be the right one for chinook. My impression is, that it is used for highly aromatic pale ales and such (eg IPAs and APAs).

I don't know that much about (........well anything really, but..........) hops and their appropriateness. I'm not restricting myself to style guidelines as I enjoy experimenting but it's good to learn basics and get them down pat too.

Just wondering if anyone can advise on whether I'm off the mark or, if I'm right, a couple of sugegstions for the best way to use these fresh smelling things. Don't need full recipes (unless you're inclined, in which case more than welcome) - just suggestions.

Cheers.

 

[matt white]

Throw 25-40g in an APA for 60 mins.

Or throw em in half at a time for 15 and 0 mins for a fruity flavour and aroma.

 

[manticle]

So can be both bittering and aroma? I think because it may be a while before I come across fresh stuff again I'll go the aroma.

Thanks again.

 

[Sammus]

Yeah my plan is to brew a pretty simple pale ale grist (90% ale malt, 5% cara, 5%wheat - or something), to about 1.050, bitter to 30ibu and chuch in half the chinook at 10min, half dry hop.... 25L batch.

no idea what to expect from this if anyone has any comments feel free to speak them.

manticle: another reason you might not want to use them as bittering is that they are home grown, and the alpha% is unknown.

Possible recipe:

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Free Chinook
Brewer: Sam
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 25.00 L
Boil Size: 30.64 L
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 14.7 EBC
Estimated IBU: 28.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.77 kg Pale Malt, Traditional Ale (Joe White) (5.Grain 90.0 %
0.27 kg Caramunich II (Weyermann) (124.1 EBC) Grain 5.0 %
0.27 kg Wheat Malt, Malt Craft (Joe White) (3.5 EBGrain 5.0 %
18.00 gm Pride of Ringwood [9.00%] (60 min) Hops 19.4 IBU
29.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (10 min) Hops 9.0 IBU
29.00 gm Chinook [13.00%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc


Mash Schedule: My Mash
Total Grain Weight: 5.30 kg
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Notes:
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[manticle]

That was suggested to me by the other brewer I gave some to also

 

[matt white]

Having said that, assume 10-14%aau

 

[Weizguy]

Arrogant Bastard clone

28litres. Please rescale. You would be using your hops for the last 2 additions, or the middle 2 and skip the dry hop.
Enjoy. I will enjoy mine. Will commence dry hop tomorrow.

Ingredients Item Type % or IBU
Premium Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 90.1 %
Crystal, Dark (Hugh Baird) (300.0 EBC) Grain 9.9 %
42.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (90 min) Hops 53.8 IBU
20.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (30 min) Hops 13.1 IBU
20.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (5 min) Hops 4.3 IBU
20.00 gm Chinook [12.00%] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.071 SG

Bitterness: 71.1 IBU

Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 7.1 %

Les out

 

[drsmurto]

I used 60g of home grown chinook flowers in an APA. Its ccing now and hope to keg it asap.

Added 30g at 15 mins and 30g at flameout.

Aroma was/is amazing, first impression was more B-Saaz than US chinook......

 

[manticle]

Those recipes are not far off the idea of my partial amber ales (utilises both ale and crystal grains) so maybe I'll make one batch with fuggles and the other batch some kind of bittering hop + late/aroma chinook.

Cheers all.