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  1. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    Cheers, Not For Horse. I will toast it up. I can brew with the second batch and will make an educated guess that the first batch would most likely under perform it. Thanks for the times and temps. I wonder if an acid malt can be undermodified? Off to Google...
  2. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    Well my second batch is done. I left it in the fridge (15c) for about 8 days in the end. It got a little matted and there might have been a bit of white fluff on some of the roots (mould?). However I threw it in the dehydrator for 1 day at 35c then another day around 50c. It sat for another...
  3. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    Thank again Not For Horses. I was having trouble finding references for the resting or mellowing idea. This weekend my first batch will be close to 2 weeks mellowing, anyway, so I might give it a try. I'm also getting a small order of pale malt delivered from the LHBS so I'll be able to...
  4. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    Thanks hoppy2B. I just checked my grain after 5 days at ~15c and they are about 3/4 or a bit more of the length of the kernel. So I might be on track for closer to 10 days germination, as per your post, this time. Unfortunately, my best concrete floor is also accessed by the dog and chickens...
  5. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    I bought a pair of really cheap jewellers magnifying glasses a while back (a weak moment on ebay from memory) and did cut open some grain. And now you've explained what I'm looking for I did see that. I'll slice open a few more to see how the non-floating batch is doing. Fair enough. I wonder...
  6. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    Haven't looked at the grow side (yet). Do you need a thresher? It was the first time I'd read that one anywhere. The grains I tested have been germinating for 4 days and look about right. I would have expected some "floaters" as per the test. I need to do a bit more work on inspecting the...
  7. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    I was reading http://www.mosquitobytes.com/Den/Beer/Hmbrewing/Malt.html in which they state, "...50 kernels of malt are shaken into a pan of water. After 10 minutes the number of horizontally floating kernels is counted; undermodified kernels either sink or float vertically in the water. At...
  8. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    I ended up putting it in a big roasting pan and its in the oven hovering around 78-81c. I've got a meat thermometer in the pain in the grain and am shooting it with my cheap ebay IR thermometer. Another 3 pans the same size would be nice to make the best use of the electricity, mind you...
  9. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    Great, thanks. I was hoping you would say 4 hours at 70c as that's what my dehydrator goes to :) Edit: Do you check the moisture level before each malting? I've just checked my weight and its lighter than my beginning dry weight which I guess is fine as I've lost some weight to root loss and...
  10. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    Hey Not For Horses, Thank you for the input. I can live with poor efficiency on my first malting attempt. It has only cost me $1.40 in barley and a couple of bucks for electricity, I guess. However, undrinkable beer at the end doesn't sound very good. I will do as you say and keep the...
  11. sandybits

    First Try at Malting Barley, advice needed re hot/fast germination

    Out of curiosity I have attempted malting some barley. I did a moisture test (100c for 3 hours to dry out a sample, weighing before and after) I steeped and air rested to get a 42% moisture content. However I only germinated for 2 days. Some of the grains had the acrospire busting out and a...
  12. sandybits

    Gelatine and bulk priming in the primary?

    :unsure: Are we talking about syphons or something else :)
  13. sandybits

    Can i leave my wort over night to cool?

    I'd read somewhere to put the cooling kettle on cold concrete. I guess the theory is that heat transfers to concrete better than air. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity reckons that concrete is a slightly better conductor than soil and a fair bit better than air alone. Water is...
  14. sandybits

    Gelatine and bulk priming in the primary?

    I ended up putting 1 teaspoon of gelatine into a cup of boiling water then stirred that into the fermenter on Thursday (or Friday :unsure:). Today, I put my DME (mixed into a litre of boiling water) into my second fermenter and racked onto that. Wasn't too painful and it was sort of cool to be...
  15. sandybits

    yeast cake fail?

    I've just experienced a very similar thing to the OP. I just bottled a Coopers Cascarillo http://coopers.com.au/diy-beer/beer-recipes/ale/detail/cascarillo-amber-ale-recipe-pack/ and had a Cooper Australia Pale Ale kit sitting on the shelf. Threw that in and took it up to 16 litres (SG -...
  16. sandybits

    Trying to "mill" grain with a blender

    Good question. I have a 20kg bag of barley that I grabbed to try some malting at home. My first batch of malt is currently germinating so I thought I'd get a head start and try it with raw barley. As I mentioned towards the start of the thread a <> b but I thought it might give me a rough...
  17. sandybits

    Trying to "mill" grain with a blender

    Cheers Ducatiboy. I'm trying to dig up the reference where I heard someone going on about too fine = bad, other than clogging up the bag. I figured I may as well chuck those finely milled grains into a thermos and do a mini mash. Mashed in @ 65c. After a hour that thing had lost heaps of...
  18. sandybits

    Trying to "mill" grain with a blender

    Thanks for the input all. I did another test, wetting the grain slightly as per the 1/2 cup water to 5kg grain, as suggested above (scaled down to 2mls water to 50g of grain). I also added some food dye to get a bit more contrast on the unmalted grain. I ran it through another 6 15 second...
  19. sandybits

    Big W 19L Pot out of stock?

    I got one yesterday, but in NSW. If they are going to stop stocking them I might shoot down and grab the other 2 on the shelf. Postage would be a killer if sending them to other brewers, though.
  20. sandybits

    Trying to "mill" grain with a blender

    I've just updated to mention I am BIAB'ing. Plus I've got the swill voile as suggested rather than the coarser stuff. So I guess you are right about as fine as I want. However, I read/hear/saw something the other day that going too fine can be detrimental. I can't remember where as I've been...
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