matti
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Well,
It appears that this melanoidan malt or decoction debate is over and it really comes down to a personal choice and/or time restriction.
Its a bit like extract and Ag to me. But would You be able to taste the difference?
My guess is yes, but since I haven't done a side by side experiment, I'll leave that to others to venture and decide upon.
Put a beer in front of me and I will properly enjoy them both.
Todays lager malts are very modified so the enzymatic properties of a decoction may seem superficial and there are people out there who use malanoiden malt, crash chill and filter and wins medal for their efforts and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
If you want miss out on the quality of great German lagers which of course is not for everyone ,thats your choice.
But if you want to add a Vienna or munich flavour to your beer I highly recommend it.
A single decoction of the heaviest mash about a 1/4 is plenty but that is depending on recipe and equipment.
Just make sure of plenty of elbow room and only brewers on site.
What I found is that the final product had all the qualities a brewer seek.
Stability, clarity, colour and full of flavour.
I managed to achieve this with grain bill below 3 kgs in a partial.
Cannot wait to try an AG version of a Pilsner or lager of some sort.
I just wish that my family would leave me alone for 8 hours :huh:
fat chance
I'll leave you to ponder now and wish you all happy brewing. Especially Tonys inlaws hehehe
It appears that this melanoidan malt or decoction debate is over and it really comes down to a personal choice and/or time restriction.
natural melanoidens created by the "cooking" process in a decoction mash wins for me.
Its a bit like extract and Ag to me. But would You be able to taste the difference?
My guess is yes, but since I haven't done a side by side experiment, I'll leave that to others to venture and decide upon.
Put a beer in front of me and I will properly enjoy them both.
Todays lager malts are very modified so the enzymatic properties of a decoction may seem superficial and there are people out there who use malanoiden malt, crash chill and filter and wins medal for their efforts and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
If you want miss out on the quality of great German lagers which of course is not for everyone ,thats your choice.
Kunze's two-step decoction mash for modern malts is outlined in this great HBD post. The rests are at 62C, 70C and 77C.
But if you want to add a Vienna or munich flavour to your beer I highly recommend it.
A single decoction of the heaviest mash about a 1/4 is plenty but that is depending on recipe and equipment.
Just make sure of plenty of elbow room and only brewers on site.
What I found is that the final product had all the qualities a brewer seek.
Stability, clarity, colour and full of flavour.
I managed to achieve this with grain bill below 3 kgs in a partial.
Cannot wait to try an AG version of a Pilsner or lager of some sort.
I just wish that my family would leave me alone for 8 hours :huh:
fat chance
I'll leave you to ponder now and wish you all happy brewing. Especially Tonys inlaws hehehe