thanx guys for your posts. that is exactly what iam after.
the boiling for 15 mins first before the hop additions is what i now always do. this is to get all the hot break out of the way basically first.
you would think the more you learn the shorter the brew day gets. wrong wrong wrong it ends up taking longer.
EDIT: Your on the right track to getting better effiency ben another thing you can do is mix up the grain during the mash and sparge. if you do it during the sparge just recycle a bit again. or you can just mix up the top layer during sparging like the comercial breweries.
anyway for your next one i would go with using the 65% effiency adjustment ie. add 500-700g pale malt and pay more attention to the mash and sparge.
Sounds like you got a wicked attenuation on the first brew mashed at 68c jasony. The 1272 doesn't have has much attenuation(73%-75%) as 1056(75-77) and 1272 is more flocculant which i guess plays a part in the lower attenuation.
also with the 1272 it does remain floating on top off the brew forever after fermention finishes just about but the beer still clears very well even though the yeast floculates to the top instead of the bottom. so its a real top cropping strain.
if you have never seen a yeast like this before it will amaze you.
this yeast was thought to be the 'rogue pacman' yeast but wyeast now state this is not correct.
EDIT AGAIN: looks like you weren't paying enough attention to the second one Jasony, still 53% effiency isn't tottally rooted and you left out some hops so hopefully you'll have a good ice cold beer for summer.what was the final gravity.
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these ones have a much better balance.
i think you could go as high a 50 odd ibu and still be well balanced.
if you went that high i'd cut back on the 15 and 10 min hops though.
i havent done a wheat yet but iam of to get some bavarian wiezen slurry from the bottom of a grumpy micro brew.
iam thinking 50/50 malted wheat and pils malt and 15 ibu tettnanger and 1/2 oz 15 mins.
cheer jayse.
oh yeah carefull with this beer you'll find everyone will rock up after work if they know you have some.
so i give the swill drinkers a pint of warm flat english ale then i don't see them for awhile and i have my a.p.a all to myself.
