Malting Info

[redbeard]

For some history on Joe White Maltings :
http://www.abb.com.au/pdf/brewer_distiller...25-29_mar06.pdf

which came from:
http://www.abb.com.au/Buyers/Malting/tabid/150/Default.aspx


some info on current barley varieties :
http://www.pir.sa.gov.au/pages/agriculture...ps/barley06.pdf

Does anyone know what varieties make up jw pils, trad ale etc ?

 

[ausdb]

Does anyone know what varieties make up jw pils, trad ale etc ?

Not sure about Joe Whites but on a recent tour by members of the west coast brewers club of the Kirin maltings in WA we were told that basically any of the locally grown malting barleys were used as feedstocks, ie Stirling, Gairdner, Harrington , Unicorn, Hamelin and Baudin (I think Hamelin was flavour of the month at the time). The malting process/schedule was then tailored to suit each variety and what end user spec they were malting for. One of the best things we found out was that although Kirins only produced pils malt they malted to different specifications depending on the customers requirements. We had bulk purchased from them in the past and got a pils malt suited to high adjunct brewing and found it was not so great for craft brewing. We now know they produce malt more suited to all malt brewing for a major brewery and that some of the local WA micro's also buy off them.

Considering the WA Joe Whites plant is only a kilometer or so away then they would be using similar varieties. If the malt was coming from Joe Whites in another state then they would be using whatever was availale locally in a similar scenario.

Hopefully Wes or someone will shoot me down in flames if I am wrong!!!!!!!

 

[jayse]

I found some info on WA fromhere

Table 2. Market preferences for malting barley varieties commercially accepted (purchased) in Western Australia for the 2006/07 season.


Baudin - - Superior quality parameters for processing with strong demand from Chinese and Japanese brewing markets due to enhanced processing performance. Primarily grown for the export brewing and malting markets as wort made from Baudin is too fermentable for the Australian brewing process.

Gairdner - Stable domestic demand for brewing and strong export market demand for starch adjunct brewing styles. Currently the preferred variety for Joe White Maltings.

Hamelin - - Replacement for Stirling in medium to low rainfall areas. Increasing acceptance and demand in export malting and brewing markets.

Schooner - - Grown in WA in the Esperance port zone for export as grain to international malting and brewing markets. Likely to be de-listed from commercial acceptance over coming seasons as production of varieties such as Vlamingh increases.

Stirling - Well recognised variety for domestic and export malting and brewing markets, as well as shochu and food barley markets. Malting quality is inferior to Hamelin and Baudin and there is likely to be less demand internationally as the quality of the newer varieties becomes accepted.

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Did have a heap of other links and info somewhere on all this but be blowed if I can find them now or remember enough of it to post right now. If i find it again I'll post, for what its worth for the most part to us craft brewers knowing what the barley strain is in our say trad ale malt from JWM is pretty trivial but i do remember somewhere a few years back reading that trad ale was sloop, don't quote me just yet though as that doesn't line up with some of the latest info i'am googling right now.

Boozed.
Jayse

 

[WildebeestAttack]

That info is about right. I know on my folks farm and around that area (Wimmera, Vic) Gairdner is what is mostly grown for malting, and sold to ABB (Joe White) for domestic malting. It used to be schooner, but that is almost all gone now.

Flagship is coming onto the scence more now with a reputatuion of an export varitey.

Barley is sold in different grades according to specs (protein, size, etc), so it's possible some varieties may get blended together if the specs match up.

 

[spog]

flagship,rings a bell with me i think the malting barley was the subject of an abc landline report about 2 months ago? regarding malting barley for the kirin brewery with jw maltings involved there somwhere?maybe a search in the abc archives will turn something up if you are interested...cheers...spog..