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I have noticed the same with lager yeast it does take time to seperate. The key word being time. I have a fermenting fridge so i can afford it the time to cool to pitching temp and properly seerate. I ave never started a yeast at 11 i find it better to start around 13 and after i see action...

Im in brisbane and love my lager. I always use a starter that has been on a stir plate at room temp upto and including 30+ degrees. I have found as long as i let the starter settle at my pitching temp and pour off the excess its fine

From what i have read dry hoping will not encourage bitterness is that true

Thanks guys heaps of info and quick too. just had a look at one of those carb caps, looks like a useful bit of gear.

about to set up my first keg system. I am just wondering what everyone out there is cleaning their beer lines with? and how often?

So in general purge head space carb to around 30 psi than try to maintain temp and it should act similar to bottle conditioning

What kind of life span are we talking before the beer goes south for both methods

Im looking at going to kegs and will prob look to store kegs out side the fridge. Wh As t kind of pressure should i look for in the keg to store it.

They look realy good do you know which site sells the unit i looked at abilbaba they only sell in 50 lots

Shame you can't get one in Australia unless you order 50

Has anyone attempted to return a robobrew to keg king r they easy to deal with

Sounds like your happy thanks for your insight

Look for peoples opinions on these two units.im looking at going ag i have decided to purchase on of these units just not sure which one at first glance both or 35lt and have pumps. However There is a masive price difference between the i quess my question is am i just paying for a brand name...