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neither have citrus juice but do have a horrible dry corn flavour.

doesn't have to be a typical shandy. soda water and fresh citrus juice is also acceptable (and tastes better)

love the replies "never tasted it, never brewed it but ....2c...2c" :rolleyes: do you have a modern day equivalent to that measurement? 16% does seem high but I'd guess not out of this world for a Belgian beer. The Brett would definitely dry it out though.

lyles also states on the can "partially invert syrup"

so... how long do I need to rack my beer for? :D

uh oh! Did you say you want something drinkable?

i zap my fermenter with the non-contact pistola thermometer and adjust a degree here and there on the controller. no big deal. as long as it's between 9-12C i'm pretty happy.

+1

and may i add to that, BoilerBoy makes a STUNNING Coopers Sparkling Ale clone, without a can opener (and he's generally busier than a one-armed juggler with crabs - so don't make the "i don't have time" excuse)

your fridge is probably better off having a rest now and again like it usually does. the mashmaster controller i use has a delay so it isn't turning on and off quickly, but i don't know if they're designed to run for 24hours straight to bring your wort down from say 60C to 11C

or just add it at the start of the boil.

if you don't have a sewing machine, try some mayo buckets and a drill.

Maybe the Mac was trying to tell you something about the HP ;) I have a 5550 deskjet and it's the biggest piece of sh!t ever!

i just let it rest on top of the fermenter, so it short cycles, not running for days until the temp is down. still works fine, just takes a little bit longer.

hahaha, you puter nerds and BIABers crack me up :)

sure they're bad beers, but i can't detect any extract twang.

OK i'll bite. **** yeah, VB, definitely Worst End and to a degree Southwark are bad commercial beers, but i'll drink them over a K&K version of the same style anyday. You guys like to bag commercial beers but to say an extract version is better is complete crap IMO. If I couldn't brew AG, i'd...

i poured a heap of partials down the drain or gave them away when i started AG too. I had a batch in a fermenter and still bottled it and wrote a big L on the caps for Last extract I ever touch. Most brewers seem to have the same story. Elitist maybe, but it IS better beer. I always hear extract...

if you can make a similar beer to VB with less extract twang than a VB, i take my hat off to you.

everyone, meet Bonj :)