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Yeah, dextrose. How fizzy do you like your pale ales? As I said, I'm usually calculating 2.4-2.6-ish and usually with a top post-ferment temperature of around 20C.

180g sounds very high to me too, carbing in the mid 2s is usually around 150g for me on beersmith.

Yes, I thought of the onion when I read it. I thought it was satire, but was unsure. I'm the kind of person who spins so much ********, yet I'm completely gullible when it's spun to me!

Woops just saw the other topic

It's just copy for their website. It's calibrated to a) provide a point of difference from other breweries (and it's a valid point of difference. Most craft beer on the market is hop-forward) and b ) position their products as premium beers for discerning drinkers. I think they do this with...

I love summer, it's not pungent, at all, but it's a lovely hop with some great apricot flavours going on.

Did you use yeast nutrient? I wonder if the break material gave the yeast something more nourishing to eat?

I took a bunch of PET bottles on a plane and they were fine. I'm sure glass gets shipped by plane regularly, so should be fine too. If you've ever seen baggage handlers at work, you'll know to pack them with plenty of cushioning though.

I did a saison with Nelson to bitter and Summer late in the boil. Worked beautifully! I find summer a fairly low key, but fruity hop that doesn't dominate, so I recommend it for the style. 8 wired do a Nelson saison if you're curious about a commercial version.

Brother!

OP asked if home brewed sauson is fruitier than DuPont and I thought d say I have found mine to be. I've primarily used WY3711 which I gather is not the DuPont strain. I've had some excellent stone fruit flavours in my saisons, & I suggest fermenting them warm.

Also pm'ed re buckets

Far from the worst, but I was at an Indian restaurant last night & had a kingfisher. I thought it was a pretty inoffensive, clean lager when I had it years ago, but this had an odd, astringent bitterness that made me wince with each mouthful. Food was too hot not to drink it though!

I might be interested, size dependent (and depending on whether I can get it approved by the minister for the interior). I'm just in Footscray.

Where abouts are you located max?

None of your hops are really to saison style, so you should feel free to bend the rules a bit. I'd be inclined to use light extract & wheat with citra & galaxy

Are you a public servant by any chance?

To be honest I'm not sure if it's any better than US05, it's just that I've used it around 22C and at the time I thought the resulting beer was ok. I reckon you'll be happiest with a saison yeast though, buy one and see what you think, but even if the style isn't that exciting to you, consider...

That could be the issue, I can't rack from inside the fridge, so might need to move the fermenter & let it sit for a few hours before racking.

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