Cloudy Wort

[BungalowBill]

I just kegged 2 beers, Reschs Pilsner clone using Morgan's golden Saaz Pilsner, 1kg brew booster and 15g Tettananger finishing hops sg 1040 fg 1010 yeast pitched @23C.

Reschs DA clone , using Morgan's Australian Bitter, 1 kG ultra brew and 15g goldings Finishing hops.
sg 1040 fg 1010 Yeast pitched @22C.
Both kits were started on 17/10 and kegged today 1/11 !5days they smelt alright aroma wise, tast wise well not foul but hard to say before conditioning I suppose.

My question is the DA batch was cloudy from start to finish when siphoning into the keg while the othe beers I have done (mexican Cerveza, straight kit no other additives) could this be the hops in the tea bag?
all the above kits used the kit yeast.

 

[peas_and_corn]

What is 'ultra brew'?

 

[buttersd70]

Easy way to tell if its yeast cloudiness as opposed to anything else. Pour about 100ml ish into a glass and put it in the fridge. If in the morning, you have a ton of sediment on the bottom, its yeast, and should drop and clear in the keg once chilled and conditioned.

A small sample will drop its yeast pretty damn quick in most cases.

Were the brews transferred to secondary for the entire time, or left in primary; and was it crash chilled for any period of time, or left at brewing temps?

 

[rclemmett]

What is 'ultra brew'?

I think falls between super brew and hyper brew.

 

[Pumpy]

What is 'ultra brew'?

It is probably a mixture of Dextrose , Maltodextrin and Dried malt it gives body to the kit beer and more sugar for the yeast to make more alchohol


Pumpy

 

[buttersd70]

I found this post on another forum about 2 years ago (I think it was on oliver and geoff, if not it was Grumpys)

Most of the brew boosters are a mix of Dextrose, Maltodextrin and Malt Extract. You can buy the seperate ingredients and mix and match to suit yourself.

Bodybrew: 600gm Dextrose, 400gm Maltodextrin
Brewbooster:500gm Dextrose, 250gm each of Light dry malt and Maltodextrin.
Ultrabrew: 500gm Light Dry Malt, 250gm each of Dextrose and maltodextrin.
Liquid Amber: 500gm Dextrose, 300gm Light DME, 200gm Dark DME.
Stout Combo: 500gm Dark DME, 250gm each Light DME and Maltodextrin.

I think Coopers BE1 is Body brew and BE2 is Brewbooster.

Cant vouch for the accuracy of this, except for the coopers ones, which have been confirmed by email (to another user on here...can't quite remember who, now) by coopers themselves

 

[BungalowBill]

What is 'ultra brew'?

The name varies from HBS to HBS but 500g Light malt,250g Dextrose and 250g Maltodextrin

 

[BungalowBill]

Easy way to tell if its yeast cloudiness as opposed to anything else. Pour about 100ml ish into a glass and put it in the fridge. If in the morning, you have a ton of sediment on the bottom, its yeast, and should drop and clear in the keg once chilled and conditioned.

A small sample will drop its yeast pretty damn quick in most cases.

Were the brews transferred to secondary for the entire time, or left in primary; and was it crash chilled for any period of time, or left at brewing temps?

No just in the primary then straight into the keg plus 5 pet bottles so I can shove one of them in the fridge and check in the morning, the keg is bulk primed with about 120g Dextrose as I can only fit 2 kegs in the fridge, 1 drinking and the other conditioning, I tried to maintain brewing temps but with the recent warm days the inside of my fermenting cupboard got to 25Cand probably back down to about 22C overnight. I have a pc fan on continuously.
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[BungalowBill]

No just in the primary then straight into the keg plus 5 pet bottles so I can shove one of them in the fridge and check in the morning, the keg is bulk primed with about 120g Dextrose as I can only fit 2 kegs in the fridge, 1 drinking and the other conditioning, I tried to maintain brewing temps but with the recent warm days the inside of my fermenting cupboard got to 25Cand probably back down to about 22C overnight. I have a pc fan on continuously.
BB

I checked on the one I put in the fridge last night and seems to be no change, I might have to let it condition for a couple of weeks and give it a try, could it be if be if the tea bag had a slight tear in it and the the hops diffused through the mix when I was stirring the yeast in?
I am just trying to cover all bases as I can remember a slight rip in a bag but cant remember which brew, I have done 3 brews with teabags and one without, this one being the only curious one.
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[mwd]

I dry hopped an APA direct into the primary near the end of fermentation and got a cloudy brew which eventually cleared after a few weeks in the bottle. Quite a thick deposit in each bottle though which is easily disturbed when pouring.

 

[buttersd70]

I checked on the one I put in the fridge last night and seems to be no change, I might have to let it condition for a couple of weeks and give it a try, could it be if be if the tea bag had a slight tear in it and the the hops diffused through the mix when I was stirring the yeast in?
I am just trying to cover all bases as I can remember a slight rip in a bag but cant remember which brew, I have done 3 brews with teabags and one without, this one being the only curious one.
BB

the cloudiness could be several things. Yeast that hasn't flocced yet (likely), small hop particles (possible), could be hazes of various sorts. Yeast, hops, etc will drop over time, some hazes may not. I'm not surprised that there was no change in a bottle overnight; as I said, put a sample in a glass, and refridgerate that. It will go flat, and with no pressure, no carbonation, and only a couple of inches in height, if its yeast, it will drop, and drop quickly. If it drops bright, you know that your bottles and your keg will drop bright over time. If the sample fails to drop in a couple of days, then its unlikely the keg will drop bright.

 

[BungalowBill]

the cloudiness could be several things. Yeast that hasn't flocced yet (likely), small hop particles (possible), could be hazes of various sorts. Yeast, hops, etc will drop over time, some hazes may not. I'm not surprised that there was no change in a bottle overnight; as I said, put a sample in a glass, and refridgerate that. It will go flat, and with no pressure, no carbonation, and only a couple of inches in height, if its yeast, it will drop, and drop quickly. If it drops bright, you know that your bottles and your keg will drop bright over time. If the sample fails to drop in a couple of days, then its unlikely the keg will drop bright.

Thanks butters, I just put some in a glass will look tomorrow morning, still looks cloudy compared to beer that i am drinking now, might be one of those ones that I will have to grin and bear it.
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[BungalowBill]

Thanks butters, I just put some in a glass will look tomorrow morning, still looks cloudy compared to beer that i am drinking now, might be one of those ones that I will have to grin and bear it.
BB

I had just checked the galss after all night and day being in the fridge, it still looks hazy but had a very fine sediment on the bottom, not very noticeable only when i was tipping it out and disturbing it. I have a keg nearly finished and 3 in waiting , so it will be probably about 9 weeks or more before I get to it and it may have settled then , my first beer out of it myight have a bit of mud in it but what the hell it will get better after that I hope.
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[buttersd70]

looks like a really low flocculator there, bb. I did this myself last night to my current (still going) brew, in 100ml had a solid 5mm of yeast in the bottom of the bottle after only a couple of hours, and the beer was still a little cloudy, but clear enough to drink....(they say that 1469 is highly flocculant, but thats at the stage of the ridiculous :lol: )

Given that its going to be in the keg for 9 weeks, you would hope that it drops bright. :huh: If not, tell everyone it's a "Special Unfiltered Ale"