Using Bleach To Sainitise

[Cocko]

You are one of the main reasons I don't post anymore so FOW **** off ******!
Got any complaints cockhead? I'll PM you my address. All you have to do is ask & turn up. :angry: :angry: Coward of the Internet!

Idiot.



We are way glad you dont post anymore you old hom.

 

[TidalPete]

Idiot.

Suck my scrotum.

You old dumb ****.

Thats all I have to say.

We are way glad you dont post anymore you old hom.

My dick. swallow it.

So you're not planning on turning up any time soon DINGO?
What else can be expected from scum like you? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Over & out.

 

[Cocko]

So you're not planning on turning up any time soon DINGO?

I am not sure what 'DINGO' means, is that some old radio speak? If so, roger that foxtrot!

IF, you are actually implying, we meet up for a physical consultation, WOW - ok.

PM your resting homes addy and we can go at it bro. it will be rad...


You dumb ****.

 

[wbosher]

Hi guys, what about sanitising bottles? I've just been putting a little bit of bleach in each bottle, filling it up with hot water, then letting them sit for a half hour and then rinsing them out.

Would starsan work for this? It's a little time consuming at the moment!

Back on topic...

I just clean my PET bottles in hot water as soon as I use them, then pop the cap on. If using PET, you need to let it cool down a little before tightening the cap though, otherwise the heat causes the bottle to suck in. When ready to use them again, I give them another rinse in hot water and squirt some starsan into them from a spray bottle, swish it around, drain and bottle. :icon_cheers:

 

[m3taL]

Hmmmmmm Dont you just love the ******s of the forums who have to take **** to that level all the time......

Thanks for ruining a Good thread for the noobies out there who want a good debate on the PRo's and Cons of using each Sanitiser.

I know the articles have the info and im sure this threads been up before but whats the point in using a forum to only read previous threads eh??

Cheers to everyone who put their 2c worth and its a pity that we had to have an Idiot come in and hijac the thread with his B/S

 

[Econwatson]

Wow!

I guess with all this beer around there is bound to be a bit of drama!

I reckon I will get some Starsan then! Seems to be the most popular choice :

 

[JDW81]

Hmmmmmm Dont you just love the ******s of the forums who have to take **** to that level all the time......

Thanks for ruining a Good thread for the noobies out there who want a good debate on the PRo's and Cons of using each Sanitiser.

I know the articles have the info and im sure this threads been up before but whats the point in using a forum to only read previous threads eh??

Cheers to everyone who put their 2c worth and its a pity that we had to have an Idiot come in and hijac the thread with his B/S

Welcome to the internet mate. It's going to happen from time, best thing to do is enjoy the "friendly banter" and take more notice of the informative posts.

 

[m3taL]

Welcome to the internet mate. It's going to happen from time, best thing to do is enjoy the "friendly banter" and take more notice of the informative posts.

That's the plan good to have a yap with fellow brewers iv met a few guys off here now all helps the process of good beer!

 

[tavas]

Hi guys, what about sanitising bottles? I've just been putting a little bit of bleach in each bottle, filling it up with hot water, then letting them sit for a half hour and then rinsing them out.

Would starsan work for this? It's a little time consuming at the moment!

Starsan works perfectly for bottles. Just make sure they clean of any residual gunk, i.e. wash them out immediately after you empty one so you don't get crusty bits of yeast etc in there. Napisan works great for removing those bits of crud, as does a bottle brush.

Your method above may work but putting bleach in hot water will cause the active ingredient (hypochlorite) to flash off and become less effective. You would be better to use cold water then rinse with hot water.

 

[bum]

Hmmmmmm Dont you just love the ******s of the forums who have to take **** to that level all the time......

its a pity that we had to have an Idiot come in and hijac the thread with his B/S

So what you're saying is that you don't like it when people post in threads just to call others ******s and idiots? A bit of self awareness wouldn't go astray if you're hoping to avoid adding to what you describe as a problem.

 

[m3taL]

So what you're saying is that you don't like it when people post in threads just to call others ******s and idiots? A bit of self awareness wouldn't go astray if you're hoping to avoid adding to what you describe as a problem.

Well not really about name calling more just the fact that that was very unnessesary personal attacking for no reason other than they have some beef with each other.
Really as a newish member who is just trying to have some good conversation on brewing and bring up the topics that us in experienced brewers try to find the pro's and cons of.
As an experienced forum user over the years it's not uncommon for the rubbishing of members over nothing to happen "welcome to the Internet"
Anyhow it's good to see others have posted their opinions and experiances with using bleach and those who swear by starsan. Plenty of info to make an informed decision on what product &method to use.
Cheers and time for a homebrew!

 

[fraser_john]

<snip>
If you have had, or suspect an infection has contaminated equipment then DISINFECT after use. Then SANITISE before next use.

My regime is to take the safest path, Disinfect then Sanitise before every brew. Recently a fridgeborn infection had been contaminating my open fermentations in the fermentation fridge. Fixed this by DISINFECTING all fermenting fridge inside surfaces.

Somewhat off topic and apologies to OP.....

What kind of fridge? I have had similar issues in the past with my fridge and have found it very hard to get into some parts of it to ensure a good disinfection coverage mine is an old fridge with the freezer section exposed to the fridge section and a removable tray separating the compartments. Getting in behind the chiller appears to be the issue.

 

[KingKong]

I know the articles have the info and im sure this threads been up before but whats the point in using a forum to only read previous threads eh??

Really as a newish member who is just trying to have some good conversation on brewing and bring up the topics that us in experienced brewers try to find the pro's and cons of.
As an experienced forum user over the years it's not uncommon for the rubbishing of members over nothing to happen "welcome to the Internet"
Anyhow it's good to see others have posted their opinions and experiances with using bleach and those who swear by starsan. Plenty of info to make an

+1 .

 

[Yob]

other than they have some beef with each other.

Welcome to AHB

ed: Starsan FTW

 

[yankinoz]

I use bleach for cleaning glass bottles, but not my plastic fermenter, following Palmer's advice that plastics pick uo a lingering chlorine scent after successive uses. I do not find bleach hard to rinse, but the water here is very soft, almost devoid of calcium and magnesium. Where you have hard water, bleach might precipitate sulfates and carbonates and cause that stickiness one commenter referred to.

If you follow bleach with an acid sterilizer such as Starsan or Defender, be sure to rinse the bleach. Acids release the poison gas chlorine from chlorine bleach, and the two products would neutralise each other more or less, depending on thye concentrations of each proiduct.

Is there any source in Australia for buying pure sodium percarbonate, without the detergents in Napisan, etc.?

 

[dougsbrew]

I use bleach for cleaning glass bottles, but not my plastic fermenter, following Palmer's advice that plastics pick uo a lingering chlorine scent after successive uses. I do not find bleach hard to rinse, but the water here is very soft, almost devoid of calcium and magnesium. Where you have hard water, bleach might precipitate sulfates and carbonates and cause that stickiness one commenter referred to.

If you follow bleach with an acid sterilizer such as Starsan or Defender, be sure to rinse the bleach. Acids release the poison gas chlorine from chlorine bleach, and the two products would neutralise each other more or less, depending on thye concentrations of each proiduct.

Is there any source in Australia for buying pure sodium percarbonate, without the detergents in Napisan, etc.?

www.kegking.com.au is probably your closest supplier.

 

[Yob]

Yes, many of us use it and there has been several Bulk Buys organised in recent times.

PM for details mate(ed) at a much cheaper rate than you will get from Keg King, caviat is you will probably get 25kg, find a few people to split it with.. 25kg would last years and years..

double ed: no affiliations etc, just a good cheap product

 

[m3taL]

ed: Starsan FTW

Meaning **** starsan??? (FTW = **** The World?)

What do you use Yob?

 

[thedragon]

Meaning **** starsan??? (FTW = **** The World?)

I think that in this context it means "for the win".

 

[m3taL]

I think that in this context it means "for the win".

Ahh Ha!! Cheerz

 

[Yob]

I use pure perc / met for cleaning, starsan for sanitisation.

Pure perc is wiked, add 1/3 met for heavily soiled items and its 'almost' PBW.

Use with boiling water to 'strip' surfaces of organic material.

The really good tbing is that starsan neutralizes the perc.

Cheers

 

[wbosher]

Anyone else having trouble getting starsan at the moment?

 

[Truman42]

Anyone else having trouble getting starsan at the moment?

Graina nd Grape make their own and sell it as Defender. Its the exact same thing. Thats what I use.

 

[Ross]

Graina nd Grape make their own and sell it as Defender. Its the exact same thing. Thats what I use.

Grain & Grape sell both. Truman, Defender is not exactly the same thing!!!

+++

wbosher - there should be no issues sourcing Starsan, we are the Australian distributors & have plenty.
Edit: just seen you are in NZ, not sure if any stores there are stocking, but we regularly supply direct to NZ customers.


cheers Ross

 

[wbosher]

Grain & Grape sell both. Truman, Defender is not exactly the same thing!!!

+++

wbosher - there should be no issues sourcing Starsan, we are the Australian distributors & have plenty.
Edit: just seen you are in NZ, not sure if any stores there are stocking, but we regularly supply direct to NZ customers.


cheers Ross

Thanks Ross. The place I usually get it from don't seem to have it at the moment. I'm sure there'll be somewhere over here I can get it from.

I just remember hearing somewhere that there was a shortage of the stuff.