Two Braumeister Questions

[proudscum]

Has anyone done an overnight mash with their system?
Secondly what sort of gravity loss are people having if they dont sparge when they remove the malt pipe?

The reason for these questions are not having time to spend the day or a whole night and finishing late as we are doing 8 brews a week at work and the keg fridge is nearing empty.
so basically want to spend as little of my weekend doing wort production in the lead up to Xmas.
The other processes once ferm is under way can be done after dinner as i have that time to play if i am not on an afternoon brewing shift.

cheers SCum

 

[Batz]

Has anyone done an overnight mash with their system?
Secondly what sort of gravity loss are people having if they dont sparge when they remove the malt pipe?

The reason for these questions are not having time to spend the day or a whole night and finishing late as we are doing 8 brews a week at work and the keg fridge is nearing empty.
so basically want to spend as little of my weekend doing wort production in the lead up to Xmas.
The other processes once ferm is under way can be done after dinner as i have that time to play if i am not on an afternoon brewing shift.

cheers SCum

You need the 200lt Braumeister.

So busy brewing you have no time for anything else.
It's around the other way for most of us, good luck and go for it!

Batz

 

[proudscum]

You need the 200lt Braumeister.

So busy brewing you have no time for anything else.
It's around the other way for most of us, good luck and go for it!

Batz

And a swimming pool to feed my immersion chiller

 

[Malted]

Secondly what sort of gravity loss are people having if they dont sparge when they remove the malt pipe?

so basically want to spend as little of my weekend doing wort production in the lead up to Xmas.

This would be counter productive. You sound like you want more wort, not sparging will give you less wort.

Fill with water the night before, weigh and crush grain the night before, turn on BM before breakfast, mash in after breakfast, 90 minute or 2 hr mash, do stuff with kids/missus, lift malt pipe and immediately start boil stage whilst letting it drain/sparge as it comes up to boil. Whirlpool and run into no chill cubes.

BM brewing can be dead set easy and does not have to take up much of your weekend.

 

[proudscum]

with free ingredients losses are not a problem i would rather save the 20 min and put that towards cooling time.No to no chill as i always prep yeast then brew never the otherway around.

so will set my mash schedule, before bed set it rolling do boil at 6.00am(a sleep in)and be fermenting by 8.30 in time to take the kids to basketball.Might dough in at groundwater temp and have first rest at 40oC,this rest temp may make up for some no sparge gravity losses.if all else fails after a gravity reading i may end up sparging.

For me on a home level it is not the wort production that rings my bells its recipe formulation,mash cycles and using different ingredients sometimes at ridiculous levels(500 gram APA got to love dryhops)Make more wort in one day at work than i will in the rest of my life homebrewing so its all about having a play and drinking some beers that may go commercial at a later date...well have one under ferm now.

Cheers for your thoughts Malted

 

[Batz]

This would be counter productive. You sound like you want more wort, not sparging will give you less wort.

Fill with water the night before, weigh and crush grain the night before, turn on BM before breakfast, mash in after breakfast, 90 minute or 2 hr mash, do stuff with kids/missus, lift malt pipe and immediately start boil stage whilst letting it drain/sparge as it comes up to boil. Whirlpool and run into no chill cubes.

BM brewing can be dead set easy and does not have to take up much of your weekend.

That's more or less what I do, I often start my BM at around 5.00am, weird for some perhaps but I'm up around that time.
I then do two 50lt brews in one day, I'm finished and cleaned up by 3-4 PM. It's not about time for me as I love brew days, it's my relaxation day, a few beers and heaps of enjoyment.

Brew days and great days. :beer:

Batz

 

[pmastello]

That's more or less what I do, I often start my BM at around 5.00am, weird for some perhaps but I'm up around that time.
I then do two 50lt brews in one day, I'm finished and cleaned up by 3-4 PM. It's not about time for me as I love brew days, it's my relaxation day, a few beers and heaps of enjoyment.

Brew days and great days. :beer:

Batz

I agree that the brew day is very enjoyable, especially with the braumeister. But I am curious as to why you do such large amounts in one day? I have the 20L and brew once a fortnight, but often held up by too much beer in my keezer with no free kegs. Why not brew smaller batches more often, rather than 100L in one day?

 

[Malted]

with free ingredients losses are not a problem i would rather save the 20 min and put that towards cooling time.No to no chill as i always prep yeast then brew never the otherway around.

For me on a home level it is not the wort production that rings my bells its recipe formulation,mash cycles and using different ingredients sometimes at ridiculous levels(500 gram APA got to love dryhops)Make more wort in one day at work than i will in the rest of my life homebrewing so its all about having a play and drinking some beers that may go commercial at a later date...well have one under ferm now.

Cheers for your thoughts Malted

Not a problem mate. With a BM it is not so much about gravity losses by not sparging, it is more about volume losses. What I mean is that you can get the gravity you had predicted, just less by volume to reach it. I interpretted your comments as you wanting to spend less time brewing at home; more wort production during a brewday at home equals less brewing events at home. That was my logic.

An overnight mash schedule is probably not something you would do at work. If you want to do pilot brews then the home brew parameters should be closer to commercial parameters. Maybe you need to consider if you really want to do pilot batches, or home keg fillers with minimal time investment?

 

[Batz]

I agree that the brew day is very enjoyable, especially with the braumeister. But I am curious as to why you do such large amounts in one day? I have the 20L and brew once a fortnight, but often held up by too much beer in my keezer with no free kegs. Why not brew smaller batches more often, rather than 100L in one day?

Because it's brew day, and I spend the day brewing.

20lt once a fortnight? I think I'd be thirsty. :lol:

 

[bum]

I interpretted your comments as you wanting to spend less time brewing at home...That was my logic.

No. That was the literal meaning of his actual words.

He's a pro-brewer. Leave him to work it out for himself.

**** me drunk.

[EDIT: typo]

 

[proudscum]

Not a problem mate. With a BM it is not so much about gravity losses by not sparging, it is more about volume losses. What I mean is that you can get the gravity you had predicted, just less by volume to reach it. I interpretted your comments as you wanting to spend less time brewing at home; more wort production during a brewday at home equals less brewing events at home. That was my logic.

An overnight mash schedule is probably not something you would do at work. If you want to do pilot brews then the home brew parameters should be closer to commercial parameters. Maybe you need to consider if you really want to do pilot batches, or home keg fillers with minimal time investment?

Went well and am about to put another one on now.Ended up with 29lt total volume with 7lt trub.Was up 4 points of gravity but i did drop the eff% to 78% when i did the recipe which was for 27lt total volume.To tired to push numbers around but pretty happy with the result so far.was done by 8.45am.As for pilot brews the recipe will always change even when you make someone elses beer in your system as no two breweries are the same.The Saison that i made at home when commercialised
is quite a different recipe because you are using 1200kg of grain not 6.5kg.Pity i dont have any of the original beer left to do a side by side when Le Petit Tronc is ready.