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Brownie

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Hi,

I am a newbie and like Tooheys Old.

I know Tooheys make a kit "Tooheys Dark Ale"; and

I know Coopers make a kit "Coopers Dark Ale".

Does anyone know which would be a) the best; and

B) the closest to the Tooheys Old or better.

Also once I have the kit would Coopers Brew Enhancer 2 be sufficient or will I need to add other ingredients?

Please be gentle...........
 

Tony

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Hi brownie.

Before i gave up cans foe grain i tried both the tooheys and coopers old kits and i have to say they are both nothing like tooheys old. ( i am a fan of the old too)

Try getting onto ESB in sydney.

they make an "old pack" that is much closser.

Make it with a 50/50 blend of dex and LME and maybe steep 100g of chocolate grain for a bit more flavour.

Brew with a good liquid yeast like Wyeast 1318 for a soft easy drinking beer with a hint of sweetness.

cheers

tony
 

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here is a can recipe for tooheys old

Beermakers Old, 1.5kg of Light LME, 200gms Dark Brown Sugar.

Boil LME, suagr in 10ltrs of water for 30mins with 20gms of POR Hops.
3mins to end of boil add 15gms of cascade.
Pitch Windsor Ale yeast in primary for 10days - Rack to secondary for 2 weeks and put in the fridge for 3 days before bulk priming.

Optional:
25gms og Cascade for dry hoping
100gms of lactose in secondary

Hope this helps you out.
 

Brownie

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Tony....who are ESB?

I live in Canberra...do they do mailorder?
 

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GMK said:
Optional:
25gms og Cascade for dry hoping
100gms of lactose in secondary

Hope this helps you out.
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Theres some options you'd do well to avoid :eek:
seriously though being only your second brew I would recomend coopers old can with a brew booster blend which is half malt half dextrose or similiar.
Being only your second brew also yeast isn't really here nor there but down the track maybe i'd look at using wyeast scottish ale for brews like these.

Happy brewing
jayse
 

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Brownie.

I reckon when Chiller gets home he's going to give you such a smack! :lol:

Fair chance you need to change your avatar. :ph34r:

Warren -
 

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Brownie said:
Tony....who are ESB?

I live in Canberra...do they do mailorder?
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Yes they do.
http://www.esbeer.com.au/
They sell some nice fresh wort kits too.
The last dark ale I made was Morgans Australian Old with their Roasted Black Malt and 12gms of Fuggles hops. I liked it so much I bought two more tins soon after.
 

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I'm with Thunderlips on this. I made a Morgans Pub Series Old with a 50/50 mix of Light DME and Dark DME and 12g of fuggles, fermented with the kit yeast. A long secondary fermentation and this beer was absolutely beautiful.
 

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Thanks everyone for your suggestions, will keep them in mind, probably go simple first, then be mroe adventurous later when i have a few more brews under my belt.

Cheers

Andrew.
 

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Thunderlips I will check out the morgans one too
 

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Jayse,

Did you mean the Coopers Classic Dark Ale?

If so I assume most HBS's have this?

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I remember doing a 'St Peters Stout Fresh Wort Kit' from ESB in Sydney and added about 4L of extra water , and man it was a T.Old Clone !
Oh and took all of about 10 mins to whip up !
:p
 

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Brownie said:
Jayse,

Did you mean the Coopers Classic Dark Ale?

If so I assume most HBS's have this?

Warren, Avatar...changed to ensure I don't get a whuppin
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Yeap thats the can I was talking about, makes a great beer I think.


Jayse
 

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Anyone heard of Beermakers brand.

They do an Old....would hope so apparently Beermakers is done by lion nathan.

If anyone has tried it, let me know....
 

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Brownie said:
Anyone heard of Beermakers brand.

They do an Old....would hope so apparently Beermakers is done by lion nathan.

If anyone has tried it, let me know....
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Heard of them, used them a couple of times, but not the Old unfortunately.
IMHO they're on a par with Tooheys. It wouldn't surprise me if they come off the same line, even though the labels give different addresses. Both out of NZ.
They're passable for what they're intended to deliver.
 

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Bilph said:
Heard of them, used them a couple of times, but not the Old unfortunately.
IMHO they're on a par with Tooheys. It wouldn't surprise me if they come off the same line, even though the labels give different addresses. Both out of NZ.
They're passable for what they're intended to deliver.
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I tried one Beermakers tin about a year ago, the Munich Lager, and I'm sure it was made in England. As far as I'm aware, the Beermaker name was taken over by Brewcraft. The Munich Lager, and all the others in that range, are now called Brewcraft.
I see though that the Australian line is still called Beermaker.
You can see them over at http://www.liquorcraft.com.au/afawcs011324...dient-Kits.html
Btw, I remember that Munich Lager as being quite nice.
 

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Beermakers/brewcraft kits are produced by Muntons maltings.
 

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Tim said:
Beermakers/brewcraft kits are produced by Muntons maltings.
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English then.
Bilph reckoned he saw some that were made in NZ. I wonder if Muntons has a factory there or maybe they get someone else to make some for them there?
 

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My local hbs told me that since they got the new packaging they have been coming from muntons.
Most extracts we get here ie blackrock, goldrush, msb, muntons (anything lion nathan) come from NZ.
 

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