Hi Everyone, Been a long time lurker and I'm not much of a forum participant usually to be honest, but I thought its time to say g'day and get in the thick of it. I've been a brewer on and off for about 10 years. First I was a kit man and gave it away after a few years due to disappointing results, but I've recently got back into it after buying a Grainfather and Robobrew to do some proper all grain brewing. I've spent the last couple of years learning these machines back to front with pretty much simple SMASH recipes to get a feel for the different grains and hops etc as well. These machines get a pretty good workout and I make a 58L wort about once a fortnight (I combine both machines into one 60L ferm). Now here's where I am stuck. I have to be honest and say I am a pretty simple drinker. I like a basic, quaffable lager that I can put away in good amounts. The sort of thing you want to have about 10 of after you finish the lawns on a hot day. Except it doesn't have to be a hot day, nor do I have to have done any work to want to have 10 of them haha - all year round! So I have been very happy with making a very very simple lager along the lines of: 4KG grain, say 50% JW Trad Ale, 50% JW Pils, sometimes I change the ratios around slightly or throw in a small bit of vienna or munich or something. 1kg table sugar 60 - 75 min mash @ 65c. Single 60min addition of Superpride for bittering only - to around 22.5 IBU Saf 34/70 or S23 in temp controlled environment, 4.8% ABV With filtered water, good temp control, gelatin and plenty of time for lagering in the keg in a temp controlled deep freezer I actually end up with an admittedly plain beer, but one I am very happy with. A bit like a carlton draught but more natural, smooth and cleaner tasting. No problems with head retention, clarity etc. Nice and clean. The thing is that I want to progress to something with perhaps a bit more character, but I must say I've been to quite a few places selling craft beer on tap and I'm not a fan of hoppy IPA, dark beers, unusual flavours etc. I have very simple tastes. I've done some smashes with other hops and I dont like the flavour of cascade, get sick of fruity citra type hops very quickly and ditto for around the other 4 or 5 hops I've tried. So the question is, what is my next evolution of recipe where I can still have a simple, easily smashable beer but perhaps is not quite so 'plain'. Is my selection of JW grains the problem? Or is it I just have a crap palette and there is no hope for me haha. I suppose I haven't seen many other people fess up that they only have basic tastes and I wonder if any other people on here are the same and if so what is their goto home recipe. Anyway, its great to finally get on board and looking forward to saying hello around the place!