Sulphury Smell Using Nottingham Ale Yeast

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Sorry Butters, but that's complete ********. I've never said anything of the sort about Nottingham whatsoever, to you or anyone else - I've never had anything but complete success with Nottingham, never a Sulphur during fermentation, and never an infection. I believe you have your conversations confused with someone else who knows nothing about Nottingham at all.

I must be getting confused, then....I recall talking with you about a batch that refused to drop bright....thats where this (admitedly hazy) memory is coming from...
Fair nuff, though. We'll put it down to bad memory and misunderstanding.
 
enough, you two. <_<
Chill. Focus. Bribie has a problem. Can we help him? or not?
 
I`ve never noticed that with N/ham, tho I`ve only used it 3 times and each time at 17*.
I`m betting it will come out ok.

stagga.
 
Bribie, I've used Nottingham for probably a good 25 + brews, it has very occasionally with brew temps below 17 degrees smelt more yeasty as far as the smell it's putting out, perhaps that could be interpreted by someone else as sulphur. As I've mentioned already, I've never had an infection with Notts, it's all been clear sailing - some are a fan of it, others have espressed a dislike because of a perceived 'dusty' characteristic to the taste, whereas I don't tend to get that (which is not to say that it's not there, just that I don't get it.) I have usually found it to be a monster of a yeast, especially at 20 degrees where I routinely get massive krausen, huge amounts of CO2 with a very vigorous ferment finished in 2-3 days. I've had one knock over a 1.049 beer to 1.005 or so in 34 hours. Is it possible that because of the vigour of the ferment and large amounts of CO2 production that you are noticing a stronger smell? Otherwise I would possibly put it down to the additions, which I couldn't comment on as I don't make those kind of water adjustments (although Warra's comments seem to make sense to me). If usually your resulting fermented beer is sweeter in comparison, it may be that Nottingham had eaten a few more of the sugars than your usual yeasts, and as a result you have a much drier beer (higher attenuation) that you're not expecting or used to? It does tend to be a very hungry yeast, I have had one brew finish at 1.003 with it (mashed bang on 62 degrees for 70 minutes), and it was thin as p*ss because the yeast had eaten everything.
Overall, it's a good reliable yeast - I think that it has in it's favour that it usually starts too fast & ferments too vigorously for any infection to be able to get a chance, so I recommend it to new brewers routinely - it removes the 'complication' that yeast can cause for brand spanking new brewers.
 
Thanks guys.
That's exactly why I used Notto as the Wyeasts I have used up to now have been leisurely to say the least, and I needed a brew that would be home and hosed before I head for Sydney in twelve days time. I'm also going to do a 'crash' brew with Notto to put in cold conditioning in the fridge so it will be ready to bottle when I get home from Sydney second week in Feb. That's why the current situation has got me worried as it could derail my specific brewing plans (Want to give God a belly-laugh tell him your plans) :p

Anyway I'll report back on Friday when, if the Notto is up to its reputation it should be ready for secondary and by that stage it should be obvious whether it's going to turn out as a drinkable brew or whether it's going downhill and should be turfed.
 
Bump.
I racked brew to secondary on Friday and it had lost nearly all its 'funky' nose. Then I made up a partial from a Coopers Lager tin, dex and a 5L cube of wort [I had done a full brew then split it in four to do four partials] and pitched a fresh packet of Nottingham. Not the same fermenter, incidentally. It's been bubbling since Sunday morning and guess what, it's getting THAT aroma again. <_<

I had never noticed it before even though I have been using Notto with kits n bits in preference to the yeast on the tin. However I have only recently started brewing in my temp contolled dead fridge and I wonder if the veggie / sulphury smell is just a characteristic of Notto getting to work on a wort either AG or partial at 18 degrees as opposed to a Morgans whatever at 22 QLD autumn norm. I sort of doubt that it's Dimethyl Sulphide from cubing as the previous two brews using 1469 and 1768 were sweet as despite being no chill.

The original brew, the Welsh Ale, will be bottled next Monday before I head down to Sydney so I should get a good idea of what the matured beer should taste like, might take a bottle or two and try them after ten days. Might give a bottle to Quantocks and see if it kills him B) And the Partial will be in cold conditioning while I'm away so hopefully that will clean up any funky flavours.

With luck it's just been another wee bend in the road to brewing enlightenment :icon_cheers:
 
mmm, excessive dms, particularly going from corn to cabbage with an increased intensity, may well be infection related.....

Except that the bacteria which are usually responsible often don't like hops, acidity, alcohol, etc. IOW, they tend to be wort spoilers rather than beer spoilers. One possibility no-one has mentioned yet: if too much trub gets into the brew, it can cause sulphury notes. As others have suggested, RDWHAHB: the sulphur usually scrubs out.
 
Just a slight bump. I've been growing 1028 for 14 days. I poped the glad rap off after cold chilling it to decant into some test tubes and I received a ERY sulfur (egg) smell.

Now this is from a 3lt flask. I've been adding low grav wort too. About 4X750 ml. I've been anal about sanitation.
I just started a Nottingham 5g starter bf searching this subject. Now I'm paranoid.

First pic the finished harvest.

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Now the New starter;

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Should I expect a sulfur smell from that?
 
With dry yeast you are much better to pitch more yeast rather than make a starter, its cheap and you wont run into any sanitation issues
 
So far, no one has mentioned that one sachet of Notto in a 20 litre brew is a massive underpitch.
The correct rate is 1 gramm per litre.
 

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